How you become a theoretical physicist

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The discussion revolves around the pathway to becoming a theoretical physicist, including the necessary educational background, coursework, and the nature of theoretical physics itself. Participants explore the importance of mathematics, physics courses, and programming skills, as well as the distinction between theoretical and practical aspects of physics.

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  • One participant inquires about the specific classes and college experience required to become a theoretical physicist, expressing interest in specializing in Relativity and Quantum Mechanics.
  • Another participant emphasizes the necessity of understanding mathematics and taking physics courses during undergraduate studies, along with learning computer programming.
  • A participant questions what defines a "theoretical" physicist, suggesting that mathematics is a practical component of physics.
  • In response, another participant explains that theoretical physicists develop theories about the physical universe, highlighting the historical context of theories like quantum mechanics and relativity, and their evolution from theoretical constructs to experimentally validated concepts.
  • Examples from the history of physics, such as Newton's and Einstein's contributions, are provided to illustrate how theories can be tested and validated over time.
  • One participant shares links to videos that they find helpful, although the content of these videos is not discussed in detail.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the educational requirements and the nature of theoretical physics, indicating that there is no consensus on a singular pathway or definition. The discussion remains open-ended with multiple perspectives presented.

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Some participants' statements depend on personal interpretations of what constitutes theoretical physics, and there are unresolved questions regarding the balance between theory and practical application in the field.

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Hi, I would like to ask HOW you become a theoretical physicist. By how, I mean what classes are needed? What is college like for one studying to become a theoretical physicist?I would like to specialize in Relativity and Quantum Mechanics. Of course this all depends on what college you attend and though I'm not entirely sure, MIT, Harvard, Princeton, and Cambridge are optional schools for me. I say this because I am enrolled in the STEM program and though it doesn't ensure that I would be accepted into these colleges it does improve my chances.

If anyone has any questions feel free to ask and thank you very much for answering my question.
 
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You need to understand a lot of mathematics, plus take the physics courses ... that will take care of the undergraduate years. Plus learn computer programming.

Think "mathematical physicist".
 
UltrafastPED said:
You need to understand a lot of mathematics, plus take the physics courses ... that will take care of the undergraduate years. Plus learn computer programming.

Think "mathematical physicist".

That's one thing I can't understand. If you are a theoretical physicist, what makes you "theoretical", exactly? To me, math is the practical part of physics.

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A 'theoretical physicist' is a physicist who flogs theories of the physical universe about. Just like in many science and engineering disciplines, mathematics forms an integral part of the preparation to become a theoretical physicist and is useful when one starts to practice the physics.

You ask what is 'theoretical' about the physics. Well, at one time, quantum mechanics and relativity were just theories which a couple of very bright fellows happen to stumble on almost by accident. In time, after the implications of these theories were understood, then experiments could be designed to test their validity.

At one time, much further back in history, the theory of gravitation was toyed with by Isaac Newton, who was able to show that his theory could be used to explain how planets orbited the sun. Many observations of planetary motions had been made by the astronomer Tycho Brahe, and his records were analyzed by Johannes Kepler who developed three laws of planetary motion from this data. It only took Kepler 20 years' work to develop his three laws. By using his theory of gravitation, Newton was able to show mathematically that Kepler's three laws were a consequence of assuming that the force of attraction between two bodies was proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between their centers. Needless to say, Newton's work took him considerably less time to develop Kepler's laws.

Now, Newton's theories about planetary motion worked quite well and agreed with the observed motion of the planets until astronomical instruments had become better refined and more accurate. In the middle of the nineteenth century, the orbit of mercury was observed to have the location of its perihelion (the point where Mercury is closest to the sun) precess by 43 arc seconds per century, which is an incredibly small amount. This tiny discrepancy in the orbit of mercury could not be explained by Newton's theory.

When Einstein developed his theory of general relativity, one of the first tests the theory was subjected to was analyzing the orbit of Mercury. GR was found to account for the observed discrepancy, and this was powerful proof that Einstein's new theory had some validity. More experiments were performed in later years to continue testing general and special relativity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perihelion_precession_of_Mercury#Perihelion_precession_of_Mercury
 
I find this helpful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYPapE-3FRw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1dgrvlWML4
 

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