HR neuron model using analog computer technique

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The discussion focuses on issues encountered while simulating an HR neuron model using HSPICE with an uA741 op-amp and MLT04 multiplier. The user suspects problems with DC level adjustments, despite individual components working correctly. Suggestions include switching to a more modern op-amp like the TL081 to reduce offset issues and improve performance. Concerns are raised about potential instability in the circuit, which could lead to oscillations or noise, particularly due to the lack of high-frequency response limitations on the multiplier. The conversation emphasizes the importance of component selection and circuit stability in achieving the desired simulation response.
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Hi Everyone,

I am simulating(using HSPICE) HR neuron model using analog computer technique but I am not getting the required response.
I am using uA741 model of opamp and MLT04 model of multiplier. I have tested these components individually and they are working fine. I doubt there is something wrong in adjustment of DC levels.
If anyone can figure out what might be the problem , I will be extremely thankful.
 

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What response are you getting and what did you expect?
 
zulqar said:
View attachment 83872 View attachment 83873 Hi Everyone,

I am simulating(using HSPICE) HR neuron model using analog computer technique but I am not getting the required response.
I am using uA741 model of opamp and MLT04 model of multiplier. I have tested these components individually and they are working fine. I doubt there is something wrong in adjustment of DC levels.
If anyone can figure out what might be the problem , I will be extremely thankful.
Why don't you choose a more modern op-amp which has more perfect performance? The 741 is very obsolete. Small offsets etc can add up in a circuit like this.
 
tech99 said:
Why don't you choose a more modern op-amp which has more perfect performance? The 741 is very obsolete. Small offsets etc can add up in a circuit like this.
Thanks tech99 for the response.
Could you please let me know any modern opamp which I can use.
 
zulqar said:
Thanks tech99 for the response.
Could you please let me know any modern opamp which I can use.
TL081 is possible. Most Op Amps have an offset adjustment, and I don't know if SPICE simulates this - maybe you have overlooked it if so.
One possibility with the circuit is that it is unstable and either oscillating, maybe at high frequency, or latching one way or the other. I think in hardware we would try breaking the signal path somewhere to see if it stabilises. I don't know the multiplier but I notice there is nothing to limit its high frequency response, so maybe SPICE will create noise or oscillation.
 
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