Huge freshwater reserves beneath the ocean

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The discussion centers on the discovery of large freshwater reserves beneath the ocean, specifically on continental shelves. Participants explore the implications of these reserves for potential use in coastal cities, as well as the technical and environmental challenges associated with accessing this water.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the definition of "low-salinity" and whether the salinity reduction would justify the costs of extraction compared to existing desalination methods.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential geological impacts of pumping large amounts of water, including the risk of collapse in coastal areas.
  • Another viewpoint suggests that sea pressure might lead to seawater replacing the withdrawn freshwater, which could increase the salinity of the remaining water over time.
  • Participants discuss the estimated volumes of continental land masses and shelves, noting that the volume of freshwater in shelf aquifers seems plausible given existing groundwater estimates.
  • There is speculation about the ecological implications, particularly regarding marine organisms that may rely on freshwater seeps or springs from the seafloor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various concerns and hypotheses regarding the extraction of freshwater reserves, indicating that multiple competing views remain and the discussion is unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight uncertainties regarding the salinity levels of the freshwater, the geological stability of extraction sites, and the ecological consequences of altering the water composition in these areas.

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Scientists discover huge freshwater reserves beneath the ocean
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131208085304.htm

A new study, published December 5 in the international scientific journal Nature, reveals that an estimated half a million cubic kilometers of low-salinity water are buried beneath the seabed on continental shelves around the world.
The water, which could perhaps be used to eke out supplies to the world's burgeoning coastal cities, has been located off Australia, China, North America and South Africa.
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
Scientists discover huge freshwater reserves beneath the ocean
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131208085304.htm

As always, the Devil is in the details. How saline is "low-salinity". Desalinization plants using ordinary saline sea water are in use all over the world. Would the decrease in salinity of this sub-surface supply produce enough savings to compensate for the added expense of drilling and pumping?
 
I also wonder if another problem might be that pumping large amounts of water out of such areas might cause collapse that would harm coastal cities, if the areas are close to the shore edge of the shelf. Just a thought.
 
phinds said:
I also wonder if another problem might be that pumping large amounts of water out of such areas might cause collapse that would harm coastal cities, if the areas are close to the shore edge of the shelf. Just a thought.

Since the deposits are underwater, I think it more likely that sea pressure would simply force sea water into replace the withdrawn less-saline water. For the most part, our continental shelf is fairly porous. It would have to be, to hold the less saline water.
 
Area of continental land masses is ca. 150 million sq. km.; area of continental shelves is ca. 4 million; volume of ground water is estimated to be 20 million cu. km. (give or take) --- half million in shelf aquifers is about right. Who wants to tell us there are no marine organisms that depend on fresh water seeps, springs, or other seafloor outlets?
 
klimatos said:
Since the deposits are underwater, I think it more likely that sea pressure would simply force sea water into replace the withdrawn less-saline water. For the most part, our continental shelf is fairly porous. It would have to be, to hold the less saline water.

Good point. It would imply another problem though, which is that as fresh water is drawn out it would be replaced by seawater, thus leading to greater salination of the fresh water. At first that wouldn't be a problem, but it could become one.
 

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