I don't understand an approximation (Taylor series related?)

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The discussion revolves around understanding an approximation related to the Taylor series, specifically in the context of the expression \(\sqrt{u^2+L^2} - L\) when \(u\) is much smaller than \(L\). Participants are exploring the implications of this approximation in a physics context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the Taylor expansion of the expression but encounters confusion regarding the terms resulting in zero. Some participants suggest using the binomial series expansion as an alternative approach to avoid derivatives.

Discussion Status

The discussion has seen some productive exchanges, with the original poster indicating a resolution to their confusion about the approximation. Others have contributed by sharing useful series expansions that could aid in similar problems, though no explicit consensus has been reached on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the common practice in physics to consider small quantities as negligible, which has led to some misunderstanding in the original poster's reasoning. The discussion also touches on the utility of certain approximations in physics when \(x\) is less than 1.

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Homework Statement


I've found in a physics book that when u <<L, we have [itex]\sqrt {u^2+L^2} -L = \frac{u^2}{2L}[/itex]. I don't understand why.

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Not sure.

The Attempt at a Solution


I've calculated the Taylor expansion of order 2 of [itex]\sqrt {u^2+L^2} -L[/itex] but I couldn't show the approximation. I get 0, which is "non sense".
If [itex]f(u)=\sqrt {u^2+L^2} -L[/itex], then [itex]f'(u)=\frac{u}{\sqrt {u^2+L^2 }}[/itex] and [itex]f''(u)= \frac{1}{u^2+L^2} \left ( \sqrt {u^2+L^2}- \frac{u^2}{\sqrt {u^2+L^2} } \right )[/itex].
So [itex]f(u)\approx f(0)+f'(0)u+ \frac{f''(0)u^2}{2}[/itex]. All of these terms are approximately worth 0 (the last one) or simply worth 0 (the 2 first).
I'm totally stuck on this.

Edit: Nevermind, I figured it out. The 3rd term (the one that isn't worth 0) is worth precisely [itex]\frac{u^2}{2L}[/itex]. I considered that u^2 was almost worth 0 at first, because in physics when we have a differential squared we consider it as 0... And here u is considered very small so I got confused, but I finally "understand" the solution now.
Thanks for reading tough. Hope that can help someone else in future.
 
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Good work, Pengwuino!
 
One useful series expansion to know is the binomial series:[tex](1+x)^a = 1+ax+\frac{a(a-1)}{2!}x^2+\frac{a(a-1)(a-2)}{3!}x^3+\cdots[/tex]Using it can save you from having to take annoying derivatives. In this problem, you could have expanded the square root as follows:[tex]\sqrt{u^2+L^2} = L\sqrt{1+\frac{u^2}{L^2}}\approx L\left(1+\frac{1}{2}\frac{u^2}{L^2}\right)[/tex]
 
Just remember

[tex]\sqrt{1+x^2} \approx 1 + {{x^2}\over{2}}[/tex]
[tex]\sqrt{1+x} \approx 1 + {{x}\over{2}}[/tex]

They're used so often in physics you should really be forced to tattoo them on your forearm.

Of course, this is when x<1.

Their inverses are also used a ton.[tex]{{1}\over{\sqrt{1+x}}} \approx 1 - {{x}\over{2}}[/tex]
[tex]{{1}\over{\sqrt{1+x^2}}} \approx 1 - {{x^2}\over{2}}[/tex]
 

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