I have to integrate int_0^1 sqrt(t^2-1)dt

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The integral \(\int_{0}^{1}\sqrt{t^2-1}\,dt\) cannot be evaluated as a real number due to the negative value under the square root for the limits of integration. Users discussed various methods to approach this integral, including the substitution \(t=\sec(\theta)\) and \(t=\cosh(u)\). The Mathematica output for the indefinite integral is \(\frac{1}{2} t\sqrt{-1+t^2}-\frac{1}{2}\log{(t+\sqrt{-1+t^2})}\), which highlights the complex nature of the solution. The discussion emphasizes the importance of recognizing the integral's domain and the implications of using complex analysis.

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I was wondering how to solve this integral:

\int_{0}^{1}\sqrt{t^2-1}\,dt

When I punch it into mathematica, it gives:

1/2 t\sqrt{-1+t^2}-1/2\log{(t+\sqrt{-1+t^2})}

I was wondering what steps are done to get this result

I suppose I forgot to enter it in as a definite integral, but still...
 
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Jonny_trigonometry said:
I was wondering how to solve this integral:

\int_{0}^{1}\sqrt{t^2-1}\,dt

When I punch it into mathematica, it gives:

1/2 t\sqrt{-1+t^2}-1/2\log{(t+\sqrt{-1+t^2})}

I was wondering what steps are done to get this result

Note that I used maple to find this substitution.

Start with \int\sqrt{t^2-1}\,dt and apply the substitution t=\sec(\theta)\Rightarrow dt=\tan(\theta)\sec(\theta)d\theta which gives \sqrt{t^2-1}=\tan(\theta) so that the integral becomes \int\tan^{2}(\theta)\sec(\theta)d\theta, you should be able to work it from there.
 
Or you can try another way:
Let:
\sqrt{t ^ 2 - 1} = x - t. Differentiate both sides gives:
\frac{t dt}{\sqrt{t ^ 2 - 1}} = dx - dt
\Leftrightarrow \left( \frac{t}{\sqrt{t ^ 2 - 1}} + 1 \right) dt = dx
\Leftrightarrow \left( \frac{t + \sqrt{t ^ 2 - 1}}{\sqrt{t ^ 2 - 1}} \right) dt = dx
But you should note that:
\sqrt{t ^ 2 - 1} + t = x
That gives:
\Leftrightarrow \left( \frac{x}{\sqrt{t ^ 2 - 1}} \right) dt = dx
\Leftrightarrow \frac{dt}{\sqrt{t ^ 2 - 1}} = \frac{dx}{x}
Integrate both sides gives:
\int \frac{dt}{\sqrt{t ^ 2 - 1}} = \int \frac{dx}{x} = \ln x = \ln (\sqrt{t ^ 2 - 1} + t).
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In general, you can show that:
\int \frac{dt}{\sqrt{t ^ 2 + \alpha}} = \ln (\sqrt{t ^ 2 + \alpha} + t).
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You can try to integrate \int \sqrt{t ^ 2 - 1} dt by parts, then you may need to use \int \frac{dt}{\sqrt{t ^ 2 + \alpha}} = \ln (\sqrt{t ^ 2 + \alpha} + t).
Viet Dao,
 
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The simplest is possibly to use the substitution t=Cosh(u)
However, your limits can't be right, unless you're dealing with a complex integral, rather than a real one.
 
hmm... all these help a lot, thanks people!
 

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