I want to generate my own electricity via the included method

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The discussion revolves around the principles of generating electricity using magnets and coils, focusing on concepts of electromagnetic induction, current flow, and the differences between AC and DC generation. Participants explore the mechanics of how movement and positioning of magnets relative to coils affect electrical output, as well as the practical considerations of building a generator.

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  • Some participants note that the magnetic field from a magnet does not inherently increase or decrease; rather, the intensity perceived by a coil changes with the magnet's proximity.
  • Questions arise regarding the initial direction of current flow, with some suggesting it may depend on the magnet's polarity relative to the coil's position.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of current flow when a magnet is moved into a coil, with references to alternating current (AC) and the need to move the magnet back to observe changes in voltage.
  • One participant mentions that generators typically use brushes for DC generation and that alternators utilize rectifiers, highlighting the relationship between magnetic field direction, force, and current direction as described by the Left Hand Rule.
  • Another participant explains that moving a magnet towards a conductor induces a circular current that opposes the magnet's motion, emphasizing the role of the magnet's orientation and motion in determining current direction.
  • Concerns are raised about the feasibility of generating significant electrical energy with simple setups, noting that practical generators often require rotation to produce alternating voltage, which must then be rectified.

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Participants express a range of views on the mechanics of electromagnetic induction and the practicalities of generating electricity. There is no consensus on the best methods for achieving stable DC output or the overall feasibility of the proposed home electricity generation method.

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Participants acknowledge that generating substantial electrical energy requires significant input energy, and there are limitations in the designs discussed, particularly regarding the efficiency and practicality of small-scale setups.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring DIY electricity generation, students studying electromagnetic induction, and those curious about the practical applications of physics in energy generation.

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"So if I have a magnetic field that's increasing increasing increasing"

I'm probably taking this too literal, but the magnetic field coming from the neo magnet isn't increasing or decreasing. The gentleman is only moving the magnetic field (the magnet) in closer proximity to the coil, so the intensity increases relative to the coil's position.

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"current's going to flow in the loop to fight that change"

What defines initial direction of current flow? Polarity of the magnet relative to the coil's position? Perhaps position of coil is irrelevant?

I've been watching the galvanometer. When you move a magnet into a coil, you need to move it back. This is why the needle jumps from + to -. That's AC correct? How do you generate DC? Keep the magnet in a single position & turn it one direction & one direction only?

Frequency = # of oscillations per second. If I were to build one of these at home, I don't think I could get the needle to jump +6v to -6v every time. I'm sure this happens in generators. How do you smooth it out? Does it even matter? & wouldn't this have an affect on Frequency? Just assume the needled jumped from +6v to -4v. I'm sure it'd take a shorter amount of time for the needle to move from -4v back to 0 vs the time it took to go from 0 to +6v
 
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Generators use brushes to create DC, alternators use rectifiers.

The direction of the magnetic field, the direction of force, and the direction of current are all perpendicular. (see Left Hand Rule).

The frequency is set by the rate of the direction or velocity changes of the field. The amplitude may vary, but there is effectively a zero crossing everytime you change direction and a change in current everytime you change velocity.
 
What defines initial direction of current flow? Polarity of the magnet relative to the coil's position? Perhaps position of coil is irrelevant?
If you move a magnet towards a plane conductor, a circular current is induced, which has a magnetic field, which opposes the motion of the magnet. Thus a north pole moving towards a sheet of metal induces a north pole facing it in the surface. When it tries to move away, it induces a south pole.

The wire in a coil constrains the current to move along it - around the coils.
So the direction of current in the wire of a coil depends on the motion of the magnet, the orientation of the magnet, and the direction of the turns.
 
The title of the thread suggests that the OP has it in mind to power his home with a coil and a magnet. In fact, the youtube video just demonstrates the basic principle of induction. (There are many better presentations than that one, btw). Generating lots of Electrical Energy requires a lot of energy to be input, in the form of fuel, wind, moving water etc - Joule for Joule. It's easy enough to produce detectable voltages with a few mA but no more.

Most designs of generator involve rotation - either a rotating magnet or a rotating coil. This will, inherently produce an alternating voltage which has to be rectified, using rectifiers or a commutator (switching mechanism).
 
Yeah - it's one thing to answer the questions and something else to address the overall goal behind the questions.
 

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