Ice Circles - Wild & Natural Wonders

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The discussion centers around the phenomenon of natural ice circles, which some participants initially mistake for hoaxes or artificial creations. Participants clarify that these ice circles are a result of natural processes involving freezing ice and river eddies, and they can be replicated in laboratory conditions. The conversation includes skepticism about the presence of metal rings around some ice circles, with some arguing that the observed features are merely optical illusions or reflections rather than actual structures. Others emphasize the beauty and complexity of the natural processes that create these circles, explaining how they form through interactions between moving water and freezing conditions. The debate touches on the challenges of visual perception and interpretation of images, with some participants expressing a desire for more evidence or personal experiences with these phenomena. Overall, the discussion highlights the intersection of natural science, skepticism, and the allure of unexplained phenomena.
  • #31
Andre said:
How would you let that imaginary metal ring float in the first place?

some more here.

I wonder where you buy these metal rings

Obviously, google.nl is a much superior search engine for solving such problems:

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My ex roommate swore by natural ice.

Btw, what are we arguing here?

hic!

DaveC426913 said:
You guys ever heard of these things?

I had no idea.

(No they're not hoaxes; they're completely natural.)
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Oh. I see. They're supposed to be completely natural.

hmmm...

Why are there ice shavings all around the circle then, as if someone had gone out and cut through the ice to make a circle, so it would rotate due to the difference in stream velocity?

I want to see a natural one.

hmmm...

I think I'll run off and get some pictures from 25+ years back and post them.

Natural ice barstools and tables.

you think I'm kidding, don't you. Shouldn't take more than 30 minutes to find and post them.

Please don't ban me until then.
 
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  • #32
OmCheeto said:
Oh. I see. They're supposed to be completely natural.

hmmm...

Why are there ice shavings all around the circle then, as if someone had gone out and cut through the ice to make a circle, so it would rotate due to the difference in stream velocity?
You've shot your skepticism from the hip.

The shavings accumulate as the ice sheet grinds off the protrusions. This was quite apparent in the lab experiment.

Again. So many peoople are so dying to claim 'hoax', when in fact, the natural explanation works perfectly well. Are you skeptics next going to turns your sights on the implausibility of regularity in mineral crystals and snowflakes? :rolleyes:

btw, welcome back omcheeto. Haven't seen you around these parts in ages.
 
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  • #33
DaveC426913 said:
You've shot your skepticism from the hip.

The shavings accumulate as the ice sheet grinds off the protrusions. This was quite apparent in the lab experiment.

Again. So many peoople are so dying to claim 'hoax', when in fact, the natural explanation works perfectly well. Are you skeptics next going to turns your sights on the implausibility of regularity in mineral crystals and snowflakes? :rolleyes:

btw, welcome back omcheeto. Haven't seen you around these parts in ages.

Like Integral, I can imagine an ice circle forming, just not the ones shown so far.

And I'm afraid I missed the lab experiment.

In the image of the most infamous ice circle, there is are too many circular patterns way too far away from the edge, indicating that the perp did in fact walk around the inside of the perimeter whilst cutting the hole in the ice.

Classic man made crop circle technique.
 
  • #34
OmCheeto said:
Like Integral, I can imagine an ice circle forming, just not the ones shown so far.

And I'm afraid I missed the lab experiment.

In the image of the most infamous ice circle, there is are too many circular patterns way too far away from the edge, indicating that the perp did in fact walk around the inside of the perimeter whilst cutting the hole in the ice.

Classic man made crop circle technique.
Sooooo, we have a perfectly acceptable natural explanation that you're not refuting, but you feel an additional explanation can't hurt? The more the merrier?

Let me introduce you to a dude named Occam...
 

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