IEEE considering electrical model of stars

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The discussion centers on the IEEE paper exploring the Z-Pinch Morphology of Supernova 1987A, suggesting that supernovae may be explained through plasma cosmology rather than traditional models. It raises questions about the concept of "electrical stars," debating whether this implies a need for a new stellar model or simply an acknowledgment of electrical fields' effects. The role of electricity in solar phenomena, such as solar wind and coronal temperatures, is also examined, with references to Hannes Alfven's work on solar flares. Participants argue that integrating electrical components into existing solar theories could enhance understanding without necessitating a complete overhaul of current models. The conversation highlights the potential for new insights into stellar and solar dynamics through the lens of electrical interactions.
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i found this, seems quite interesting;

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel5/27/4287017/04287093.pdf&arnumber=4287093
The Z-Pinch Morphology of Supernova 1987A and Electric Stars
Thornhill, W.
Plasma Science, IEEE Transactions on
Volume 35, Issue 4, Aug. 2007 Page(s):832 - 844
Digital Object Identifier 10.1109/TPS.2007.895423
Summary:Supernova 1987A (SN 1987A) is the closest supernova event since the invention of the telescope. It was first seen in February 1987 in the nearby Large Magellanic Cloud, which is a dwarf companion galaxy of the Milky Way and only 169000 light years from Earth. The Hubble images of the rings of SN 1987A are spectacular and unexpected. The ldquobeaded ringrdquo pattern of brightening is not well explained as an expanding spherical shock front into an earlier stellar ldquowind.rdquo The axial shape of SN 1987A is that of a planetary nebula. It seems that new concepts are required to explain supernovae and planetary nebulae. The new discipline of plasma cosmology provides a precise analog in the form of a Z-pinch plasma discharge. The phenomena match so accurately that the number of bright beads can be accounted for and their behavior predicted. If supernovae are a plasma discharge phenomenon, the theoretical conditions for forming neutron stars and other ldquosupercondensedrdquo objects are not fulfilled, and plasma concepts must be introduced to explain pulsar remnants of supernovae. If the bipolar Z-pinch pattern is introduced to explain supernovae and planetary nebulae, a new electrical theory of stars is required.


What do they mean by electrical stars? Is it that we should take into account the effects of the stars electrical field? or that a completely new model of stars is needed?

I believe a similar system was described by Nobel Laureate Hannes Alfven, who explained solar flares by cicuit interuptions in the stars outer plasma layer;
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1963IAUS...16...35
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1986stpr.rept..409A
 
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Skeptik101 said:
i found this, seems quite interesting;

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel5/27/4287017/04287093.pdf&arnumber=4287093

What do they mean by electrical stars? Is it that we should take into account the effects of the stars electrical field? or that a completely new model of stars is needed?

I believe a similar system was described by Nobel Laureate Hannes Alfven, who explained solar flares by cicuit interuptions in the stars outer plasma layer;
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1963IAUS...16...35
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1986stpr.rept..409A

The questions about the role of electricity in astronomy are widespread, including questions about the role of electricity in solar theory. It is not altogether clear however that a "completely" new model of stars is necessary. There are at least two enigmatic solar phenomenon that might be best "explained" by suggesting that the sun electrically interacts with it's heliospheric sheath. The first is the solar wind activity, where the charged particles of the solar wind are accelerated as they leave the photosphere. What drives that acceleration? The second unexplained phenomenon that electrical currents might explain are the extreme temperatures that can be found in the solar corona, including the million degree plasmas flowing through the sun's coronal loops. What energy source is responsible for that phenomenon? Alfven observed x-ray images of the sun from the skylab program, and attributed those million degree loops to electrical activity in the solar atmosphere. Dr. Charles Bruce had previously noted a connection between the speed of propagation of events in the solar atmosphere and electrical discharges here on earth.

While there are rather "radical" EU solar models floating around in cyberspace these days, it would technically not be necessary to completely abandon current solar theory simply to include an electrical component in various solar phenomenon.
 
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