If a is not equal to zero then b/a=b*a^-1

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The discussion revolves around proving the relationship between division and multiplication by the reciprocal in the context of basic algebraic axioms. The original poster seeks to demonstrate that if \( a \neq 0 \), then \( \frac{b}{a} = b \cdot a^{-1} \), while adhering to specific axioms without directly using the definition of the reciprocal.

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  • Participants explore the original poster's attempts to express division in terms of multiplication by the reciprocal, questioning the validity of using certain definitions. Some participants suggest that the property may be more of a definition than a provable statement.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the axioms available and questioning the definitions of division and the reciprocal. There is a recognition of the limitations imposed by the axioms, and some participants express confusion regarding the lack of explicit definitions for the terms used in the proof.

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Participants note that the axioms provided do not explicitly define the notation for division or the reciprocal, raising concerns about the ability to prove the statement without clear definitions. The original poster is also constrained by homework rules that limit the use of certain properties.

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Homework Statement



Prove: if a\neq0 then b/a=b*a^-1

I don't know if my proof is sufficient with this one but I cannot think of another way. Also I am only supposed to use the basic axioms (e.g. commutative, distributive, existence of reciprocal...)

Homework Equations


1/a=a^-1 (I am not supposed to use this)
Distributive law


The Attempt at a Solution



b/a=b*(1/a)
=b*(a^-1)
=b*a^-1

I am not allowed to use the (1/a)=a^-1 thing, but I can't think of how to tackle this one any other way. Could someone at least get me pointed in the right direction? I am confused because the property seems too obvious hahaha.
 
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a_skier said:

Homework Statement



Prove: if a\neq0 then b/a=b*a^-1

I don't know if my proof is sufficient with this one but I cannot think of another way. Also I am only supposed to use the basic axioms (e.g. commutative, distributive, existence of reciprocal...)

Homework Equations


1/a=a^-1 (I am not supposed to use this)
Distributive law

The Attempt at a Solution



b/a=b*(1/a)
=b*(a^-1)
=b*a^-1

I am not allowed to use the (1/a)=a^-1 thing, but I can't think of how to tackle this one any other way. Could someone at least get me pointed in the right direction? I am confused because the property seems too obvious hahaha.

It is obvious, hahaha. And I don't think you can 'prove' it. It's a definition. As far as I know, b/a is defined by b*a^(-1). If you have an alternate definition of b/a then you might be able to prove it. What might that definition be?
 
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I don't see any alternate definitions of a/b. I only have these six axioms:

AXIOM 1. COMMUTATIVE LAWS. X +y =y + X, xy = yx.
AXIOM 2. ASSOCIATIVE LAWS. x + (y + z) = (x + y) + z, x(yz) = (xy)z. AXIOM 3. DISTRIBUTIVE LAW. x(y + z) = xy + xz.
AXIOM 4. EXISTENCE OF IDENTITY ELEMENTS. There exist two distinct real numbers, which we denote by0and 1,such that for ecery real x we have x+0=x and1’ x =x.
AXIOM 5. EXISTENCE OF NEGATIVES. For every real number x there is a real number y such that x + y = 0.
AXIOM 6. EXISTENCE OF RECIPROCALS. For every real number x # 0 there is a real number y such that xy = 1.

and these 4 theorems:

THEOREM 1.1. CANCELLATION LAW FOR ADDITION. Zf a + b = a + c, then b = c. (In particular, this shows that the number 0 of Axiom 4 is unique.)
THEOREM 1.2. POSSIBILITY OF SUBTRACTION. Given a and b, there is exactly one x such thata+x=6. Thisxisdenotedbyb-a.Inparticular,0-aiswrittensimply -aand is called the negative of a.
THEOREM 1.3. b - a=b+(-a).
THEOREM 1.4. -(-a) = a.
 
If you can't directly use \dfrac{1}{a} = a^{-1}, then can you use a \cdot a^{-1} = 1? If not, then what exactly is a^{-1}? How is it defined?

Edit: I don't see either \dfrac{1}{a} or a^{-1} defined in the axioms you posted. I believe it's safe to assume \dfrac{1}{a} is defined as the multiplicative inverse of a. If a^{-1} isn't defined in the same way (from which the desired proof would follow from definition), then how exactly is it defined?
 
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a_skier said:
I don't see any alternate definitions of a/b. I only have these six axioms:

AXIOM 1. COMMUTATIVE LAWS. X +y =y + X, xy = yx.
AXIOM 2. ASSOCIATIVE LAWS. x + (y + z) = (x + y) + z, x(yz) = (xy)z. AXIOM 3. DISTRIBUTIVE LAW. x(y + z) = xy + xz.
AXIOM 4. EXISTENCE OF IDENTITY ELEMENTS. There exist two distinct real numbers, which we denote by0and 1,such that for ecery real x we have x+0=x and1’ x =x.
AXIOM 5. EXISTENCE OF NEGATIVES. For every real number x there is a real number y such that x + y = 0.
AXIOM 6. EXISTENCE OF RECIPROCALS. For every real number x # 0 there is a real number y such that xy = 1.

and these 4 theorems:

THEOREM 1.1. CANCELLATION LAW FOR ADDITION. Zf a + b = a + c, then b = c. (In particular, this shows that the number 0 of Axiom 4 is unique.)
THEOREM 1.2. POSSIBILITY OF SUBTRACTION. Given a and b, there is exactly one x such thata+x=6. Thisxisdenotedbyb-a.Inparticular,0-aiswrittensimply -aand is called the negative of a.
THEOREM 1.3. b - a=b+(-a).
THEOREM 1.4. -(-a) = a.

There is no definition in there of what b/a means or what a^(-1) means, though I assume the latter is that a^(-1) is the y in the expression that is supposed to exist in ay=1 in AXIOM 6. There is no way to prove anything if your axioms don't tell you what the notation means in terms of the axioms. See the problem?
 
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