If matter were to travel the speed of light, would it convert to

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The discussion centers around the implications of matter traveling at the speed of light, particularly whether it would convert to energy. Participants explore concepts related to Einstein's equation E=mc^2, the nature of mass and energy, and the behavior of light in different media.

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  • Some participants propose that matter can be converted to energy, as indicated by E=mc^2, suggesting that matter is a form of condensed energy.
  • Others argue that no matter can travel at or faster than the speed of light, as it acts as an ultimate speed limit, with massless particles being the only entities capable of reaching that speed.
  • A participant explains that as particles approach the speed of light, their effective mass increases, making it impossible to reach that speed.
  • One participant introduces the concept of Cerenkov radiation, questioning how light can travel faster in a medium like water and what factors contribute to the change in light speed in different media.
  • Another participant raises questions about the implications of mass and density of a medium on the speed of particles with mass compared to massless particles.

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Participants express multiple competing views regarding the nature of light speed in different media and the implications of mass and energy conversion, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

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Participants highlight the complexity of relativistic effects and the behavior of particles at high speeds, with some assumptions about the nature of mass and energy conversion remaining unaddressed.

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If matter were to travel the speed of light, would it convert to energy?
 
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The meaning of E=mc^2 is that matter, even standing perfectly still, has energy - and can be converted to other forms of energy in processes like nuclear fission.
 
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Yes. What atyy is basically saying here is that since Einstein's publication of his most known formula, the way to interpret the world is that matter and energy are two faces of the same coin. Matter is a form of condensed energy, basically.

So at all times, matter is susceptible to be converted to energy. Think atomic bombs, for example. Now, the speed of light is something else. It acts as a kind of ultimate speed limit to the universe. There is no matter that can travel at, or faster than the speed of light. Only massless particles can travel at the speed of light.

If you tried to push a particle enough that it reached the speed of light, you would never manage to make it, because the closer the particle would get to the speed of light, the heavier it would get!(the reason for this involves a relativistic understanding of Time, which is better discussed in the relativity subforums)

And since the Large Hadron Collider is in the news lately, this is exactly what goes on in that 27km tunnel. Electromagnets push on groups of protons that fly in opposite directions the tunnel, thus giving them kinetic energy. The closer to the speed of light these protons get, the heavier they get due to all that accumulated energy. When they collide, that accumulated energy needs to go somewhere, so it "condenses" into matter; heavy particles. The higher the speed, the higher the energy of the particles. The higher the energy, the more massive the particles created are! (this is where the w and z bosons come from, which are 100 times more massive than a single proton, and why it was necessary to build the LHC to reach higher energies so that the elusive Higgs boson can be created/observed)
 


not trying to hijack this thread but Rhannmah's response made me question something. so nothing can travel faster than the speed of light in a vacuum, but in a different medium such as water (ie: Cerenkov radiation) it is possible.

so how is it possible for the speed of light to change in a different medium?
so when photons try to move at their universally constant rate, c, what is it in different mediums that slow them down? i see that the speed of light, in water lose 1/4 of their speed
if photons are massless then how could any particle that has mass can ever exceed the massless particles speed? or does it have to do with the density of the medium, but if it has to do with the density or mass of the medium then would that not have the same, if not greater, effect on a particle with mass having to encounter the same resistance thus balancing it out?

i'm a newb, long time reader, first time poster :)
 
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moogyjackson said:
not trying to hijack this thread but Rhannmah's response made me question something. so nothing can travel faster than the speed of light in a vacuum, but in a different medium such as water (ie: Cerenkov radiation) it is possible.

so how is it possible for the speed of light to change in a different medium?
so when photons try to move at their universally constant rate, c, what is it in different mediums that slow them down? i see that the speed of light, in water lose 1/4 of their speed
if photons are massless then how could any particle that has mass can ever exceed the massless particles speed? or does it have to do with the density of the medium, but if it has to do with the density or mass of the medium then would that not have the same, if not greater, effect on a particle with mass having to encounter the same resistance thus balancing it out?

i'm a newb, long time reader, first time poster :)

You may want to start by reading the FAQ in the General Physics forum.

Zz.
 

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