To cshum00
cshum00 said:
-Well, the thing is that we don't know if God exist or not.
-What we know is that there is a probability that such entity exist.
-No matter how small the probability is, the probability still exist.
-In other words, it might look like that God does not exist at all but such entity might exist.
-So the existence could be true or false.
First of all, there are only two states of being. Either God does exist or He doesn't. So the probability is either 0 or 1. If you have other numbers to through in there, I'd love to see how you calculated them. You sort of said this yourself.
[/QUOTE]Same goes for the Bible. Although those were the teachings of God, you can find flaws that God is not that 'perfect' as he should be.[/QUOTE]
The Judeo-Christian God is the definition or perfect, so how could He not be Himself?
[/QUOTE]-Rather than destroying towns, humans and civilizations who were against God or morally wrong, why not to explain to them himself that he was right and they were wrong? He sure could do that since he is the Omnipotent one.[/QUOTE]
When you were little, how many times did your parents say, "Because I said so"? God says the same thing. He's GOD, there is no reason why He should have to explain all the details to us. We couldn't even wrap our mind around it if He did.
[/QUOTE]-If God knew what would happen, why would he still put tests on humans?[/QUOTE]
God knew what would happen and did it anyway because good would come of it. God gave us free will because He wanted us to CHOOSE to trust him. He didn't want us to be simple tools. Just as you'd prefer someone who chose to be with you rather than someone who HAD to be with you. Or how you'd prefer a job that you really had to compete for, instead of a job you received by being the only applicant.
[/QUOTE]-If God was before us, what was before him?[/QUOTE]
You're putting human limitions on a non-human entity. Time is a dimension just as height, length, and width. Just as God has no height, length, and width, he also has no time.
[/QUOTE]-Why does we have to believe in him in order to live in eternity? Doesn't it sound more like a threat rather than a consolation?[/QUOTE]
According to the Christian perspective, everyone lives for eternity, it just depends where. As far as Christianity being accused for being elitist, because that's probably the first thought that comes to mind...
If God gave us two ways to live heaven, we'd want three. If He gave us four ways to get to heaven, we'd want 6, and so on...
In his book
Orthodoxy, G.K. Chesterton says "A man is a fool who complains that he cannot enter Eden by five gates at once. "
Also, you can look at EVERY religion throughout the world, and at some point they also draw the line and claim their way is the only way.
I don't know which side of God you believe so it is hard to prove it all wrong. But if you read history, you will most likely find that people where first polytheist and then monotheist which implies that people did believe in something unreal before and it is not rare that it will bound to happen again except that there is only one omnipotent.
So when does the issue about God rises? I think that it is when we think about the purpose of life and the universe. Therefore, we think of a beginning and a end. But as awkward as it might sound, i believe that the purpose is not there, you gives the purpose to it. If the miracle won't happen by coincidence, make the miracle happen.
I am not saying that you should quit your religion. I don't want to be blamed if you can't go to heavens because of your change of mind. Just accept the fact that God might and might not exist.
You decide in what you believe.
P.S. Even though if God does not exist as a entity, it still exist as an abstract. So at the end if God did exist as a entity, those who didn't believe in him go to hell. But if God did not exist, people who said that God did not exist were wrong because it existed as a fictional concept.[/QUOTE]