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I'm getting Tiger!

  1. Oct 3, 2005 #1

    Moonbear

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    Okay you Mac people, who has Tiger already? I finally ordered the upgrade. Any issues I should be prepared for when upgrading? Or any tips on finding cool features that might not be intuitive to set up? What kinds of widgets do you have that you just can't do without, and where do I find them? :biggrin: I can't wait!
     
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  3. Oct 3, 2005 #2
    cool!!! I love Tiger. some people reported issues with 10.4.0, 10.4.1 and 10.4.2. I have not had any, but Apple will be releasing 10.4.3 in a few days.
     
  4. Oct 3, 2005 #3

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    Oh, perfect timing then! I should have Tiger in a few days and can then promptly update.
     
  5. Oct 3, 2005 #4

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    It's the only mac I can't say I don't like. that's because I've never used it. our school still uses OS 9.2 :rolleyes:
     
  6. Oct 3, 2005 #5
    if you have never used OS X then you cannot even compare it to Classic Mac OS.

    I hated Macs before OS X. Now they rock.
     
  7. Oct 3, 2005 #6

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    I agree, before OS X, I could take it or leave it. When I worked in a lab with all Macs running OS 8 or 9 (I can't remember which), I brought my PC laptop with me every day. Now it's the opposite, I work in a lab with PCs running Windows XP (oh, how I hate that!) and I bring my Mac laptop in with me every day so I don't have to work on their cruddy windows machine.
     
  8. Oct 3, 2005 #7

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    Did the pre-Tiger version not have the spotlight search function? If so, that is one hell of a feature.
     
  9. Oct 3, 2005 #8

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    http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/automator/ [Broken]
     
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  10. Oct 3, 2005 #9

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    so what's so great in OSX?
     
  11. Oct 3, 2005 #10

    Moonbear

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    Nope. That's one of the features I'm looking forward to. Glad to hear you like it. I was hoping it wasn't just being over-hyped.
     
  12. Oct 3, 2005 #11

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    Here's just the new features in Tiger:
    http://www.apple.com/macosx/newfeatures/over200.html [Broken]

    Mostly it saves me from a lot of bruising, because I don't find myself beating my head against a wall several times a day fighting with it like I do with Windows (I've never used Linux on a PC, so don't know how it would compare to that...there definitely are a lot of Linux fans around here, so I would consider that if I had a PC).
     
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  13. Oct 3, 2005 #12

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    what do you find so difficult about windows




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  14. Oct 4, 2005 #13

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    It's unstable, virus infected and outdated
     
  15. Oct 4, 2005 #14

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    I have never met anyone who has found a use for automator.

    The most useful feature in my opinion is dashboard. Spotlight is also useful as is RSS in safari 2.0. You can also highlight words and then right click on them and choose to look them up in the dictionary, which i use sometimes.
     
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  16. Oct 4, 2005 #15
    My system is rock solid.

    I don't have any viruses.

    I have all of the updates.

    How can you say it is unstable? That is totally conditional.

    How can Windows be virus infected? It is a computer that gets the virus. They don't come in the retail box.

    How is Windows out of date? It has come a long way. I am not arguing it is the best operating system nor that it is not. Windows offers the latest in gaming technology. I don't know how you could argue otherwise. Windows also easily offers the most hardware support. You can't even question that.
     
  17. Oct 4, 2005 #16
    umm, it is Unix based, it has all the tech of Windows Vista in it right now.

    it stays out of your way when you work, unlike windows.
     
  18. Oct 4, 2005 #17
    nothing is difficult about it, it is just the structure of the system that makes it obnoxious to use.

    I find that development on OS X is a lot nicer than windows because the underside is better organized (the directory structure, etc is Unix like which makes it much nicer to work with) than in windows. you get all the GNU tools, LaTeX is super easy to set up and run, everything about it is just much nicer than in windows.
     
  19. Oct 4, 2005 #18
    umm, Windows Worms are rampant because of how easy it is to exploit it, MS is remidying this, but it is still a big problem

    as you should, but that does not protect you from spyware which affects the stability of the system. The fact of the matter is that for most people, Windows becomes infected and messy because most people do not know how to manage a computer. Education is the key, but you cannot educate most of the people because they are past that point in their life or have no interest to go and find someone to teach them.

    you like to parse words?

    It is out of date because IE has not been updated technology wise in 5 years, the underlying technology is 5 years old or more and there are no added features to the system for 5 years. The service packs have made it more secure, but they have done nothing for advancing the state of windows technology

    no one has. but that is kind of a pointless aspect when most people that have a computer use it for something other than gaming. I have not bought or played a game in nearly 8 years. My priorities are adult priorities and I have to get work done.

    sure I can. I have come across hardware that does not work under windows but then I plug it into my Linux system and it works right away with out any configuration. Unless you are talking about GFX cards or sound cards, Windows hardware support is actually poorer than Linux. Will Windows run on SPARC? will it run on Dragonball? will it run on PPC? will it run on MIPS?

    nope. and if your intention was to say that OS X hardware support is sketchy, it certainly is not. you need to buy GFX cards built to work on OpenFirmware, and sound cards are not available, but everything else is a plug in and play.
     
  20. Oct 4, 2005 #19

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    What does that really do? It sounded like it was just an easy way of creating macros for those who don't know how to do that, though the few times I've wanted to do something like that, it never seemed too hard to do in the first place.

    Spotlight sounds great. And it sounds like there's a RPN calculator in dashboard. Is that correct? Does that mean it has advanced functions on it, not just addition/subtraction type stuff?
     
  21. Oct 4, 2005 #20
    Apple script is a pain in the butt, and I am a computer science major. Automator makes it easy peasy.

    The calculator that comes with Tiger is not RPN, but I am sure there is one out there, and if not, you can code one using Javascript/perl/pything/what ever languages are supported and CSS
     
  22. Oct 4, 2005 #21

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    Here are some key features
    • Here are some key features of "RPN Calculator":

      · A simple interface aimed at fitting in with the rest of the Mac OS
      · Multiple levels of interface complexity, revealing only the features needed
      · A few interface goodies, including contextual menus where useful
      · Smart copy & paste (concerning complex number recognition)
      · Drag & drop almost everywhere
      · 8 to 4096 element stack, with 8 visible elements at all times
      · 8 memories with mouseover preview of contents
      · Adequate set of built-in scientific functions
      · Special functions, such as Bessel functions
      · Full complex number support with respect to the applicable built-in functions
      · Numerous keyboard shortcuts
      · A compact mode which leaves only the display visible
      · Arbitrary number of user-defined constants
      · Arbitrary number of user-defined functions of up to 10 variables
      · Base conversion between bases ranging from 2 to 36
      · Unit conversion
      · Statistics registers with most common statistical functions
      · Linear systems of up to degree 5
      · Determinants and inverses (up to 5 by 5)
      · Prime number search
      · Factorization and prime factorization
      · Rational number approximation to decimal expansions
      · Extended dynamic range where appropriate via Victor Shoup's NTL
      · Ability to log events during a single session.


    One feature I like is the translator (on the dashboard). Its awesome and supports many different languages :smile:

    EDIT: I didnt know that it does not ship with tiger.You can get it from http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Math-Scientific/RPN-Calculator.shtml [Broken]
     
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  23. Oct 4, 2005 #22
    haha, "adult priorities." dissed.

    i hate windows for the reason that they crash very easily, and anything i want to do on IE ends up with me getting 5 new viruses and 20 million ads. so then i got firefox. so much nicer. and i never used limewire/bearshare/kazza/anything that would f- up my comp. windows takes forever o search for something, and if i try to search for pictures lets say, itll expect my to put everything in the My Pictures folder, so it will automatically search only in that folder. stuff like that. f-ing windows.

    i dont own a mac but i hate windows so much that i started like macs even thought i naver used the new os x.

    this is just weird: :rofl:
     
  24. Oct 4, 2005 #23

    actually, the calculator.app does have RPN functionality in it, and you can expand that to Scientific functionality as well. I thought however that moonbear wanted an RPN Dashboard calculator which does not come in tiger.
     
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  25. Oct 4, 2005 #24

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    Cool...oh, I don't care where the calculator is or where it comes from, but to have some scientific functionality would be wonderful!
     
  26. Oct 5, 2005 #25

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    I use this one click it's not that good looking but it is useful.
     
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