I'm having a hard time understanding how to calculate tension. Help please?

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The discussion revolves around calculating tension in a physics problem involving two blocks connected by a string, with one end tied to a wall. The original poster is seeking to understand the concept of tension and how to approach the problem, particularly in the context of an introductory physics course.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate tension by finding the x and y components of the forces involved, but expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their approach. They mention using the formula F=m*a and question whether they should consider the vector components. Other participants suggest identifying forces and drawing free body diagrams, indicating a focus on equilibrium conditions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants encouraging the original poster to provide a diagram for clarity. There is a recognition that the problem is likely a statics problem, and some guidance has been offered regarding the need to analyze forces and components. However, the lack of a diagram has led to some confusion, and multiple interpretations of the setup are being explored.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the equilibrium condition (ΣF = 0) in statics problems. The original poster has expressed difficulty in providing a diagram, which may be affecting the clarity of the discussion.

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Now, I'm not going to ask anyone to do my assignments. I just want help understanding how to calculate tension so that I can complete my work by myself. I may give examples from my assignments, but I don't want anyone to just work it out and post answers - I want to understand.

I'm new to studying physics so I would appreciate simple explanations that I can understand(I'm in an intro course).

I've read that there isn't a formula for calculating tension and that tension is just a force. Right now I'm working with problems that involve a string under ideal conditions.

Ex. The diagram is displayed as a right triangle with theta in the lower left. Two blocks are connected by a string and tied to a wall. They look like this along the hypotenuse; []-[]-
The mass of both blocks and the value for theta are given. I need to (i)calculate the tension of the string connecting the two blocks, and (ii)the tension in the string tied to a wall.

I first tried to find the x and y components(as it is set up to look like a vector and we have been doing this a lot in class). For the magnitude I added the masses of the blocks, but I don't know if that is right. Then I used cos(theta)*magnitude for x-component, and sin(theta)*magnitude for y-component. Honestly, I'm not too sure if I even need to find the vector components.

I also know that F=m*a. The mass(for part (i)) would be the mass of both blocks and the acceleration would be g=9.81m/s^2?

Basically I've tried this several different ways and I am getting all my tension problems wrong. This is because I don't fully understand the concept of calculating tension and I would appreciate some help.

Thanks.
 
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Please post a diagram so we can understand exactly what you are asked to find. (I'll move this to Intro Physics, where it belongs.)

I presume this is a statics problem. The blocks are in equilibrium, thus ΣF = 0 for each block. (In a statics problem the acceleration is zero, not 9.8 m/s^2.)

Start by identifying the forces on each block and drawing free body diagrams. Then you can come up with equations for the x and y components of the forces.
 
Doc Al said:
Please post a diagram so we can understand exactly what you are asked to find. (I'll move this to Intro Physics, where it belongs.)

I presume this is a statics problem. The blocks are in equilibrium, thus ΣF = 0 for each block. (In a statics problem the acceleration is zero, not 9.8 m/s^2.)

Start by identifying the forces on each block and drawing free body diagrams. Then you can come up with equations for the x and y components of the forces.

I can't post a diagram.
 
why is that so?
 
RainbowMop said:
I can't post a diagram.
Why not?

Then at least describe how the blocks and the string are connect in more detail. Is the arrangement: wall - string1 - block1 - string2 - block2 - string3 - wall? Is the string connecting the two blocks horizontal?

But even if you don't you can still use the hints I gave earlier.
 
ashishsinghal said:
why is that so?

I can't copy and paste the picture, I can't link you to it...

Nevermind if it's too much trouble.
 
Open up Paint, draw your item, save to computer, create account on photobucket.com, upload image, paste link, and make everything easier.
 
Too much trouble nevermind.
 
Without a diagram, you'll at least have to describe the setup as I suggested in post #5. That should be easy to do.
 

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