Image Distance of a concave mirror ( with algebra)

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The discussion centers on solving for the object distance (do) of a concave mirror with a focal length (f) of 34.4 cm, where the image distance (di) is one-third of the object distance. The correct application of the mirror equation (1/f) = (1/do) + (1/di) leads to the conclusion that do = 4f. Thus, substituting the focal length, the object distance calculates to 137.6 cm. Participants clarified the algebraic manipulation needed to isolate do, correcting misconceptions about the relationship between di and do.

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Homework Statement


A concave mirror with a focal length of 34.4 cm produces an image whose distance from the mirror is one-third the object distance. Calculate the object distance.


Homework Equations


(1/f)=(1/do) + (1/di)


The Attempt at a Solution


I know that i have to use the mirror equation (posted above). I substitute 1/3(do) in for Di, because the problems states that "... produces an image whose distance from the mirror is one-third the object distance" so my equation now looks like this: (1/f)=(1/do) + [1/(1/3)do].
My problem, sad as it seems, comes during the algebra work. I can't for the life of me get the do terms by themselves to solve. Could someone please help refresh my memory? Basically what I've been doing is adding the do terms to get (1 and 1/3)do = .344m and then divide 1 by the answer that i get solving for do. Thanks for any help you can give!
 
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Cheezay said:

Homework Statement


A concave mirror with a focal length of 34.4 cm produces an image whose distance from the mirror is one-third the object distance. Calculate the object distance.

Homework Equations


(1/f)=(1/do) + (1/di)

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that i have to use the mirror equation (posted above). I substitute 1/3(do) in for Di, because the problems states that "... produces an image whose distance from the mirror is one-third the object distance" so my equation now looks like this: (1/f)=(1/do) + [1/(1/3)do].
My problem, sad as it seems, comes during the algebra work. I can't for the life of me get the do terms by themselves to solve. Could someone please help refresh my memory? Basically what I've been doing is adding the do terms to get (1 and 1/3)do = .344m and then divide 1 by the answer that i get solving for do. Thanks for any help you can give!

Doesn't it work out from your equation that 4/3*f = do ?
 
Yes, that's how it works out. But solving for do, i get a wrong answer. Perhaps i have my equation set up wrong?
 
Cheezay said:
Yes, that's how it works out. But solving for do, i get a wrong answer. Perhaps i have my equation set up wrong?

To be clear, if you arrived at
(1 and 1/3)do = .344m
this is incorrect. It should be 3/4*do = .344
 
(1/f)=(1/do)+(1/di)
(1/f)=(1/do)+(1/((1/3)do))
(1/f)=(1/do)+(1/(do/3))
(1/f)=(1/do)+(3/do)
(1/f)=(4/do)
do=4f

remember:
[1/(1/3)do]
is equal to 1/(do/3)=3/do
 
Thanks v_bachtiar, that helped a lot!
 
v_bachtiar said:
remember:
is equal to 1/(do/3)=3/do

Yikes. You're right. I took it as 1/(3*do) which is wrong. Good catch.
 

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