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The discussion highlights the often-ignored aspect of ethnic interests in immigration debates, emphasizing that arguments typically center around cultural and economic factors. Political scientists like Samuel Huntington and economists such as George Borjas have noted the significant cultural shifts and economic challenges posed by large-scale immigration, including wage depression and increased demands on public services. The conversation references a speech by former Colorado Governor Dick Lamm, who outlines methods for undermining national unity, such as promoting bilingualism, multiculturalism, and a victimhood mentality among minorities. Lamm argues that these factors can lead to societal fragmentation and conflict, drawing parallels with historical examples of multicultural societies facing crises. The dialogue stresses the importance of openly discussing the implications of immigration on ethnic interests and the broader societal impact, advocating for a comprehensive examination of these issues to foster meaningful solutions.
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October 27, 2004

Immigration And The Unmentionable Question Of Ethnic Interests

By Kevin MacDonald

Arguments over immigration are usually limited to cultural or economic factors. Political scientists like Samuel Huntington point out that the culture of the country will change dramatically if there is a continued influx of Spanish-speaking immigrants. And economists like George Borjas have demonstrated that large masses of newcomers depress wages and create enormous demands on the environment and on public services, especially health care and education.

These lines of argument are, of course, legitimate. But there always seems to be an element of timidity present. No one wants to talk about the 800-lb. gorilla sitting over there in the corner—the issue of ethnic interests.

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Complete article at http://www.vdare.com/misc/macdonald_041027_immigration.htm
 
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I can speak from personal experience. I once thought immigrants who did not know English just had not learned it yet. Unfortunately the truth is these people not only refuse to learn English, they DEMAND Spanish be spoken in order to do business here in the U.S. Do not kid yourself, there is a Mexican revolution in our country.

"How to Destroy America" by Dick Lamm, a former three-term Governor of Colorado.

Recently, there was a conference on immigration in Washington, DC. At it, a college professor named Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, "Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal – is, in his opinion, destroying the entire state of California.

Governor Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"

"Here is how they do it," Lamm said: "Turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bi-cultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual.

"The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way: 'The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.' Canada, Belgium, Malyasia, Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."

Lamm went on: "Invent 'multi-culturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

"We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The apparent success of our own multi-ethnic and multi-cultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.'" Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural sub-groups living in America reinforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

"Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

"My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."

"My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other."

"A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy Persia threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to over come two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" -- From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'unum,' we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

"Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits ~ make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'zenophobe' halt discussion and debate."

"Having made America a bilingual/ bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America , it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant sympatric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

Finally he said, "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

There was no applause following Lamm’s speech. Every person in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was happening in the United States today. Such discussion is attacked. Over 100 languages are eroding the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness.

American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America - take note of California and other states – to date, over ten million illegal aliens and growing fast.

Business interests are perpetuating the problem, and your representatives need their money.
 


The topic of immigration is a complex and often contentious issue. While discussions often focus on cultural and economic factors, there is one aspect that is often overlooked or avoided – the question of ethnic interests. This is a sensitive topic, but one that must be addressed if we are to have a truly honest and comprehensive conversation about immigration.

As author Kevin MacDonald points out, there is a certain timidity when it comes to discussing the impact of immigration on ethnic interests. This is understandable, as it can be a sensitive and emotionally charged topic. However, it is also important to acknowledge and address the reality that immigration can have significant effects on the interests of different ethnic groups.

It is not uncommon for immigrants to have a strong sense of ethnic identity and to prioritize the well-being and advancement of their own ethnic group. This is a natural and understandable human instinct. However, when it comes to immigration, it is important to consider how these ethnic interests may impact the larger society and its existing ethnic groups.

For example, as MacDonald points out, large-scale immigration can have a significant impact on the culture and demographics of a country. This can lead to concerns about the dilution or loss of a country's cultural identity, as well as potential conflicts between different ethnic groups. It is important to have open and honest discussions about these potential consequences, rather than avoiding the topic altogether.

At the same time, it is also important to recognize and address the economic impact of immigration on different ethnic groups. As economist George Borjas has demonstrated, large numbers of immigrants can depress wages and place strains on public services, which can disproportionately affect certain ethnic groups. This is another aspect of immigration that must be carefully considered and discussed in order to find solutions that are fair and beneficial for all involved.

In conclusion, while discussions about immigration may be uncomfortable or difficult, it is essential that we do not shy away from the question of ethnic interests. By acknowledging and addressing this important aspect of immigration, we can have a more comprehensive and productive conversation about this complex issue.
 
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