Implications of a "theory of everything"

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The discussion revolves around the concept of a "theory of everything" (TOE) and the differing interpretations of this term between the general public and physicists. It touches on theoretical frameworks that aim to unify the fundamental forces of nature, as well as the implications and significance of such theories in addressing deeper questions about the universe.

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  • Some participants propose that the general public associates a "theory of everything" with existential questions, while physicists view it as a unifying framework for the fundamental forces of nature.
  • One participant argues that the term "theory" has a specific meaning in scientific discourse, which does not encompass questions of meaning or purpose.
  • There is a suggestion that physicists may glorify theories like string theory due to their mathematical elegance or potential for funding, raising questions about the motivations behind the pursuit of a Grand Unified Theory (GUT).
  • Others inquire about the deeper consequences of having a GUT, such as its ability to address fundamental questions like the information paradox or baryon asymmetry.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the interpretation of the term "theory of everything," with some defending the distinction between scientific and colloquial meanings. The discussion remains unresolved, with differing views on the implications and significance of a GUT.

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The discussion includes references to specific theories and concepts, but lacks detailed exploration of the mathematical or technical aspects involved. There are also indications of interpersonal conflict among participants regarding language and tone.

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I think normal people and physicists have different definitions of a "theory of everything", normal people (I am not calling Physicists abnormal although some of dem are a bit wonky) usually mean something along the lines of meaning of life/why we exist/ purpose in life etc.
Physicists on the other hand refer to a theoretical framework that unites all four fundamental forces of nature, at it's face value this doesn't sound very grandiose(to a normal person atleast) and definitely doesn't sound like something worthy of the title of "theory of everything". Do physicists glorify these theories (eg:super string theory) only because of their mathematical elegance(or because they want funding👀) or are there other deeper consequences of having a GUT?(like answering some other fundamental questions of the universe, something like the information paradox or Baryon asymmetry etc.)

I haven't studied string theory or any other GUT, heck I'm till solving block on incline problems but I'm curious about the latest developments in physics.
 
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Physics Slayer said:
I think normal people and physicists have different definitions of a "theory of everything", normal people (I am not calling Physicists abnormal although some of dem are a bit wonky) usually mean something along the lines of meaning of life/why we exist/ purpose in life etc.
That would be an error of the word 'theory' made by these 'normal people'.

A theory has a specific meaning - and its not about answering 'why' questions or attributing 'meaning'.
 
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I think normal people and physicists
Excuse me?
Are you trying to be insulting?
 
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I am not calling Physicists abnormal although some of dem are a bit wonky
That's exactly what you are doing!
 
The PC expression for physicists is differently normal, although most will accept being called 'special'.
 
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or are there other deeper consequences of having a GUT?(like answering some other fundamental questions of the universe, something like the information paradox or Baryon asymmetry etc.)

If you really want to learn more about the various TOE models and current status, do some reading at reliable websites. Then, if you have questions about that reading, start a new thread in the appropriate technical forum (using the B=Basic thread prefix), post links to your reading, and ask *specific* questions about that reading. Have a nice day.
 
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