Improving Math Rigour - Tips & Advice

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The discussion revolves around improving mathematical rigor, particularly in the context of understanding and constructing proofs. Participants explore various strategies and perspectives on what constitutes mathematical rigor and how to develop it effectively.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the nature of mathematical rigor, questioning whether it is solely about carefulness or requires a clear logical progression in arguments.
  • Another participant suggests that understanding the fundamentals of proofs, such as implications and contradictions, is essential for improving rigor.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes the importance of emulating the style of proofs presented in class and practicing by attempting to prove theorems independently.
  • Some participants recommend engaging with rigorous mathematics textbooks and analyzing the proofs within them to understand the necessity of each step.
  • There is a suggestion to seek clarification from those who critique one's rigor, specifically asking for rigorous proofs of their assertions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that improving mathematical rigor involves understanding proofs and justifying arguments, but there are varying opinions on the best methods to achieve this. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific approaches and definitions of rigor.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention different sources of feedback on rigor, indicating that the context of the critique (e.g., from a math professor versus a chemistry professor) may influence its meaning. There are also references to potential gaps in understanding and the need for a solid foundation before advancing to more complex concepts.

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I was told I lack mathematical rigour. But how do I go on improving on it? Is it only a matter of being very careful? Do I have to always support everything with a clear Euclidean succession of logical steps? Is it only a matter of 'believing' in the validity of the supporting tools? Then it's an oxymoron that while some people consider rigorous to firmly step on past tools, they mainly do it via respect to the mathematicians that invented them, rather than on a clear understanding of them.

Concerning my personal case, I think I don't lack knowledge so much on the process but rather on discipline. e.g. I was taught from a very young age the elegance of Geometrical axioms leading to a whole science but when it gets to other concepts, my mind usually flies to places that should really have a more solid basis behind them before going there.
 
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Depends who's telling you this. It means different things if it comes from your chemistry professor or your math professor.
I'll assume you mean your math professor. First, understand the fundamentals of proofs: implications, contradictions, necessity/sufficiency, etc. Watch carefully how the results are proven in class and emulate the style in your exercises. What helped me was to do is to work ahead in the textbook and [thoughtfully] copy down the proofs that will be presented the next day. Once you feel like you grasp the material, go back to the theorem, cover up the proof, and try to prove it on your own.
 
As stated by hsetennis it absolutely depends where this is coming from. If it is from a math professor (as I will from here on in assume it is), then it means you have to work on justifying your arguments mathematically i.e; proofs. There are many ways you can learn about this. One is by reading through the introduction sections of elementary rigorous mathematics textbooks (like analysis, set theory, algebra and so on), and in specific going through the proofs offered by the textbooks and trying to figure out what each step means and why is it necessary. These books usually offer practice questions also where you can practice your own proofs. Another option is to read a book specifically on proofs such as "How to prove it: A structural approach"- which has been mentioned on here several times. Your professor probably means that there are "holes" in your arguments. That is, you aren't including all the necessary steps and jumping from one step to the next without proper justification.
 
cdux said:
I was told I lack mathematical rigour.

Next time you are told ask for a rigorous proof of the assertion.
 

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