Indefinite Integrals / Laplace Transforms

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the Laplace transform of the function f(t) = t using improper integrals. Participants are exploring the conditions under which the transform is valid and the application of integration by parts in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply integration by parts but expresses confusion about the process. Some participants provide hints and starting points for the integration, while others discuss the general formula for integration by parts.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering guidance on integration techniques. The original poster acknowledges a lack of understanding, indicating a need for further study. There is no explicit consensus, but some productive direction is being provided through hints and clarifications.

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The original poster mentions feeling overwhelmed by the topic, suggesting a gap in foundational knowledge regarding integration and Laplace transforms. This context may influence the discussion and the types of assistance offered.

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Homework Statement



Using improper integrals, find the Laplace transform of f(t)=t, determining the values of s for which the transform is valid.

Homework Equations



The Laplace transform F(s) of a function f is defined as

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F(s)= | f(t)e^(-st) dt.
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The Attempt at a Solution

I have completely worked the question up until, and am pretty sure I know how to finish it off after integrating the Laplace transform function. It's been hinted at me to use integration by parts but I am completely lost at how to do this.

Please help out?
 
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I'll give you a starting point. integral(t*exp(-s*t)*dt)=(-1/s)integral(t*d(exp(-s*t)). Now can you do the integration by parts on the parts t and exp(-s*t)?
 
Generally for integration by parts -
[tex]\int_a^b f(x) g'(x)\,dx\,=\,\left[ f(x) g(x) \right]_{a}^{b} - \int_a^b f'(x) g(x)\,dx[/tex]

let f(x) = t and g'(x) = e-st.
 
mmm thanks for the help guys, but it seems my problem was just a complete lack of knowledge on the topic, and even your help is going over my head.
looks like i'll just flunk this question and hit the books so it doesn't happen again.
 
EvanQ said:
mmm thanks for the help guys, but it seems my problem was just a complete lack of knowledge on the topic, and even your help is going over my head.
looks like i'll just flunk this question and hit the books so it doesn't happen again.

Hitting the books as a response to flunking a question shows wise judgement. Good luck. Tackling Laplace transforms w/o a knowledge of integration by parts is probably a poor idea. Just to tease, can you do the Laplace transform of 1? Differentiate it with respect to s.
 

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