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The discussion centers around determining the maximum value of 'n' such that the modulus of π - 22/7 is less than 10^-n. Participants clarify that π - 22/7 is approximately -0.001, and they explore how this relates to the modulus and the inequality. It is established that the modulus represents the distance to zero, leading to the conclusion that the maximum value of 'n' is 2, as 1/10^3 equals 0.001, which does not satisfy the inequality. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding modulus in relation to the problem. Overall, the participants successfully arrive at the solution through collaborative discussion.
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Homework Statement



What is the maximum value of 'n' such that the modulus of pi-22/7 < 10-n?

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I have worked out that pi > -10-n + 22/7 , and pi < 10n +22/7. I also know that 10-n is equivalent to 1/10n. I do not know where to go after this however.
 
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hi vodkasoup! :smile:
vodkasoup said:
What is the maximum value of 'n' such that the modulus of pi-22/7 < 10-n?

π = 3.14159265…

22/7 = 3.14285714…​

what is π - 22/7 ?

what is it less than? :wink:
 
Hi tiny-tim, thanks for the reply :)

Haha, I didn't even notice the 22/7 relating to pi!

So π - 22/7 is, according to my calculator, -0.001 ... which is less than 0.

I still can't quite see how to relate this to 10-n. I'm a bit slow today, haha.

It seems that no matter how much I increase the value of n, -0.001 will always be lower.

Am I on the right track with the 1/10n thing?
 
hi vodkasoup! :smile:
vodkasoup said:
So π - 22/7 is, according to my calculator, -0.001 ... which is less than 0.

that's ok, the question asks you about the modulus, doesn't it? :wink:
I still can't quite see how to relate this to 10-n.

what's 10-1? what's 10-2? what's 10-3? …
 
Hmm. I think I may be a bit unclear on the meaning of 'modulus'. Is it the 'distance' to 0 of a given point?

If that is so, would the maximum value of n be 2, because 1 / 10 to the third power is 0.001, which does not satisfy the inequality?
 
vodkasoup said:
Hmm. I think I may be a bit unclear on the meaning of 'modulus'. Is it the 'distance' to 0 of a given point?

yes, modulus is the magnitude

so, for a number x, the modulus, |x|, is always positive (or zero)
If that is so, would the maximum value of n be 2, because 1 / 10 to the third power is 0.001, which does not satisfy the inequality?

yes :smile:
 
Thanks so much for your help tiny-tim! Sorry I took so long to reply here; I've been so busy over the last couple of days. Very much appreciate your help.
 
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