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The discussion revolves around finding additional orthonormal polynomials on the interval [-2,1] up to degree 2, given the first polynomial p(x) = 1/√3. Participants are exploring the implications of orthonormality and the conditions required for the polynomials.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to understand the significance of the initial polynomial and the concept of orthonormality. They raise questions about the integration process and the use of dot products to establish orthogonality between the polynomials. Some express confusion about forming and solving the resulting equations.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the polynomials and the conditions they must satisfy. Some participants have provided guidance on setting up equations based on orthogonality and normalization, while others are still grappling with the integration and equation-solving aspects.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the requirement for the polynomials to be orthonormal, which involves specific integral conditions over the defined interval. There is mention of homework constraints and the need to follow a particular format for the answers.

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Homework Statement



Find 2 more orthonormal polynomials on the interval [-2,1] up to degree 2 given that the first polynomial p(x) = 1/√3. ( Note: Take the highest coefficient to be positive and enter your answer as a decimal.)

Homework Equations



This is a web assign equation so the answer format is in something like this, where I enter in the solutions:

degree 1 = (something)x + something
degree 2 = (something)x^2+(something)x+something

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm trying to understand this problem here. What exactly does the 1 over square root three give us? How does it help?

I was told by my professor that to do this use the dot product of two functions f and g then find integral of f(x)g(x)dx over the boundary conditions. I'm not exactly sure what this means but I followed some examples from the homeworks, as we hadn't really learned this in lecture yet.

So I make up two equations:

f(x) = a + bx
g(x) = x(a+bx)

(1) I integrate both equations on the given boundaries: Int[-2,1] (a + bx) dx= 3a - (3/2)b

(2) INT [-2,1]x(a+bx) dx = -(3/2)a + 3b

After this step I have NO IDEA what to do. :cry: I have a system of two equations. I can make a matrix
| 3 -(3/2) |
|-(3/2) 3 |

But how does this help me? If anyone could give me guidance, please do. Thank you very much
 
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Lolsauce said:

Homework Statement



Find 2 more orthonormal polynomials on the interval [-2,1] up to degree 2 given that the first polynomial p(x) = 1/√3. ( Note: Take the highest coefficient to be positive and enter your answer as a decimal.)

Homework Equations



This is a web assign equation so the answer format is in something like this, where I enter in the solutions:

degree 1 = (something)x + something
degree 2 = (something)x^2+(something)x+something


The Attempt at a Solution



I'm trying to understand this problem here. What exactly does the 1 over square root three give us? How does it help?

I was told by my professor that to do this use the dot product of two functions f and g then find integral of f(x)g(x)dx over the boundary conditions. I'm not exactly sure what this means but I followed some examples from the homeworks, as we hadn't really learned this in lecture yet.

So I make up two equations:

f(x) = a + bx
g(x) = x(a+bx)

(1) I integrate both equations on the given boundaries: Int[-2,1] (a + bx) dx= 3a - (3/2)b

(2) INT [-2,1]x(a+bx) dx = -(3/2)a + 3b

After this step I have NO IDEA what to do. :cry: I have a system of two equations. I can make a matrix
| 3 -(3/2) |
|-(3/2) 3 |

But how does this help me? If anyone could give me guidance, please do. Thank you very much

Label the three polynomials as p0(x), p1(x) and p2(x) of respective degrees 0, 1 and 2. You are told that the interval is [-2,1] and that p0(x) = 1/sqrt(3), hence int_{x=-2..1} p0(x)^2 dx = 1. That seems to be saying that the polynomials should also be "orthonormal", that is, have "squared norm" = 1. Anyway, you need int_{x=-2..1} p0(x)*p1(x) dx = 0 (p0 orthogonal to p1) and int_{x=-2..1} p1(x)^2 dx = 1 norm condition), so you can determine both constants a and b in the formula p1(x) = a + b*x. Now, with p2(x) = e + f*x +g*x^2, you can determine e, f and g from the conditions int_{x=-2..1} p0(x)*p2(x) dx = 0, int_{x=-2..1} p1(x)*p2(x) dx = 0 and int_{x=-2..1} p2(x)^2 dx = 1. You will have three simple linear equations in the three unknowns e,f and g.

RGV
 
Ray Vickson said:
Label the three polynomials as p0(x), p1(x) and p2(x) of respective degrees 0, 1 and 2. You are told that the interval is [-2,1] and that p0(x) = 1/sqrt(3), hence int_{x=-2..1} p0(x)^2 dx = 1. That seems to be saying that the polynomials should also be "orthonormal", that is, have "squared norm" = 1. Anyway, you need int_{x=-2..1} p0(x)*p1(x) dx = 0 (p0 orthogonal to p1) and int_{x=-2..1} p1(x)^2 dx = 1 norm condition), so you can determine both constants a and b in the formula p1(x) = a + b*x. Now, with p2(x) = e + f*x +g*x^2, you can determine e, f and g from the conditions int_{x=-2..1} p0(x)*p2(x) dx = 0, int_{x=-2..1} p1(x)*p2(x) dx = 0 and int_{x=-2..1} p2(x)^2 dx = 1. You will have three simple linear equations in the three unknowns e,f and g.

RGV

Thank for for your response. I have a question though, I was able to solve the first degree equation of a + bx, but I can't seem to get the second one. So you set the first two equations p0p2 and p1p2 to zero correct?
 
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Never mind I got it, thanks!
 

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