Inflection points using 2nd derivative

  • Thread starter Thread starter Beeorz
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Derivative Points
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding inflection points for the function f(x) = -x^(3/2). Participants are exploring the implications of the second derivative and its behavior at critical points, particularly at x=0.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the first and second derivatives and their implications for identifying inflection points. There is a focus on the behavior of the second derivative at x=0 and the validity of testing points around this value.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing examination of the derivatives and their correctness. Some participants have pointed out the limitations of the function's domain, which affects the analysis of inflection points. The conversation is productive, with participants questioning assumptions and clarifying definitions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the function is only defined for x in the interval [0, ∞), which restricts the ability to test values to the left of x=0. This constraint is central to the discussion of potential inflection points.

Beeorz
Messages
30
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Find all inflection points,

f(x) = -x^3/2


Homework Equations


n/a



The Attempt at a Solution


f'(x) = -3/2x^-1/2
f''(x) = 3/4x^-3/2

The f''(x) does not exist. I know that doesn't necessarily mean that there isn't any inflection points, but how do I go about finding them? Ususally I just set the 2nd derivate equal to 0 but it doesn't seem to work in this case. When I do set it equal to 0, I get x=0. And when I check points to the left and right of f''(0) the 2nd derivate doesn't change signs. Does that mean there is no inflection points??
 
Physics news on Phys.org
I am assuming you meant that [itex]f(x) = \frac{-x^3}{2}[/itex]


But you are correct in saying that f''(x)=0 => x=0 . f(0)=?

Now check the sign of f'(x) at say x=0.1 and at x=-0.1. See if the sign changes.

[You are to check if the sign of the gradient changes which is given by f'(x)]
 
Judging by his derivatives, he actually means
[tex]f(x) = -x^{3/2}[/tex]
which should have been written as -x^(3/2).

First of all, I don't think your derivatives are correct, check them again.
 
Yes, I meant f(x) = -x^(3/2)

wish I knew how to use w/e program that you guys are using so that there is less confusion..in looking at my derivative..they seem correct to me

basically -(3/2)x^((3/2)-1) = -(3/2)x^(1/2)...no?

ill check over them again and see
 
[tex]\frac{d}{dx}f(x) = \frac{-3}{2}x^{1/2}[/tex] is correct, however that is not what you had in your first post.

However there cannot be a point of inflection at x=0 because the domain is only defined from [0,inf) which automatically means that the second derivative cannot change signs at x=0 because it to is only defined on (0,inf)
 
Ah, I see my mistake.So,

f'(x) = (-3/2)x^(1/2)
f''(x) = (-3/4)x^(-1/2)

(-3/4)x^(-1/2)=0
x=0

Taking test points to the left and right of x=0 yields no sign change, thus there is no inflection point.

Would what I said above be correct to say? We currently solve for inflection points setting the 2nd derivative equal to zero. We then use those zeros and divide the x-axis into intervals. Using a test point within those intervals we determine the sign of f''. If f'' changes sign then there is a inflection point.

Just wanting a confirmation :smile:
 
You can't 'test' to the left of zero, i.e. negative numbers. As has been pointed out, this function isn't defined for negative x, and you just took a square root of a negative number in your last post as well in the higher derivatives.
 

Similar threads

Replies
1
Views
1K
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
1K
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 18 ·
Replies
18
Views
2K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
1K