Infrared Gas Analyzer: How to Accurately Measure Concentration

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The discussion revolves around the functioning of infrared gas analyzers, specifically focusing on how these devices accurately measure the concentration of gas molecules that absorb infrared radiation. The inquiry addresses the potential interference from re-emitted radiation by gas molecules and the methods used to mitigate this effect.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the basic operation of infrared gas analyzers, highlighting the role of radiation attenuation in measuring gas concentration.
  • Another participant suggests that the radiation spectra differ from absorption spectra, indicating complexity in the devices.
  • A third participant argues that it is unlikely for re-emitted radiation to significantly affect measurements due to the low probability of molecules returning to their original state and the orientation of emitted light.
  • A later reply questions the assertion about the improbability of returning to the original state and seeks clarification on the emission of radiation at the same wavelength.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the impact of re-emitted radiation on measurement accuracy, with some suggesting it is negligible while others seek further clarification on the mechanisms involved. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent of this effect.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions about the behavior of gas molecules and the specifics of radiation emission that are not fully explored, including the conditions under which stimulated emission might occur.

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An infrared gas analyzer gives you the concentration of a given molecule that absorbs radiation in a specific infrared band, in a gas, by determining the attenuation of radiation of the frequency in case, when in a path between emitter and receiver is a sample of the gas in analysis. My question is, since the molecule will re-emit the radiation, and it can do this in any direction, some of it can reach the receiver. Therefore, in order to not account for this radiation, that would otherwise indicate a minor concentration of the molecule, what is done? Is it just a question of time lag of the re-emitted radiation in comparison to the radiation that reaches the receiver directly?
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It's very unlikely the molecule will return to its original state, and also that any radiated light is oriented directly at the detector, so the signal will be tiny.

Stimulated emission is a much bigger effect, where the light can make a molecule emit an identical photon in the same direction as the original one. Even so, this effect is very small in the infrared (~0.01% I think).
 
Thank you for your answers!
CWatters, even that is the case, it can still be emission in the same wavelength, isn`t that the case?
"It's very unlikely the molecule will return to its original state", why is that MikeyW?
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