Infrared LED array for heating?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility and effectiveness of using infrared (IR) LED arrays as heating sources for humans in residential settings. Participants explore various aspects including the potential benefits, challenges, and comparisons with traditional heating methods.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that while IR and heat are related, they are not the same, suggesting a need for clarity in definitions.
  • One participant mentions the effectiveness of IR LED heating lamps, indicating they can generate comfortable heat and can be focused using optics.
  • Concerns are raised about the directional nature of radiant heaters, which may not provide uniform warmth, especially in shadowed areas.
  • Another participant questions the cost-effectiveness of using LEDs compared to standard filament lamps, highlighting the efficiency of filament lamps as IR heating sources.
  • There is interest in the potential advantages of LEDs, such as robustness, but uncertainty about their operating temperatures and power requirements is expressed.
  • Some participants share personal projects and ideas related to IR heating, including prototypes and handheld devices for pain relief.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the effectiveness and practicality of IR LED arrays for heating. There are competing views on the advantages of LEDs versus traditional heating methods, and the discussion remains unresolved on several technical aspects.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the lack of extensive research in the area of IR LED heating, which may limit the understanding of its effectiveness and applications.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in heating technologies, energy efficiency, and the application of infrared technology in residential settings may find this discussion relevant.

IsleVegan
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We have LED arrays for visible lighting. What problems exist for using infrared LED arrays as a heat source for humans, like those in a residential settings?

Does effectiveness vary much by wavelength and skin color, clothing worn, etc?

Thanks. :-)
 
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Welcome to PF;
Short answer: "IR" and "heat" are not the same thing.
A quick check shows that LED heat lamps are commercially available, have you tried investigating their designs to help you with your question?
 
They do generate very useful and comfortable heat, and the beam can be focused with optics. I will soon get 10 full scale prototypes IR LED heating lamps - and I expect them to give some 5 C.

The questions you ask are very relevant, but there has been very little if any research into this area.
 
We have LED arrays for visible lighting. What problems exist for using infrared LED arrays as a heat source for humans, like those in a residential settings?

Radiant heaters (sometimes called "direct heaters") tend to be directional. So they do a good job of warming up the part of your body that faces them but perhaps not the bit in shadow. For all round comfort you generally do better to heat the air in the room using conduction/convection.

Radiant heaters have uses in car service workshops where it's too expensive to heat the air because the doors are opened regularly.
 
severin said:
They do generate very useful and comfortable heat, and the beam can be focused with optics. I will soon get 10 full scale prototypes IR LED heating lamps - and I expect them to give some 5 C.

The questions you ask are very relevant, but there has been very little if any research into this area.

I appreciate the encouragement. I quickly found a example of a hand held "pain relieving" ir wand with 72 LEDs. I have some ideas on this. Want to chat?
 
For producing IR, a standard filament lamp should work pretty well in most applications. I'm not sure why one would pay the extra cost of getting LEDs instead.
 
Redbelly98 said:
I'm not sure why one would pay the extra cost of getting LEDs instead.
That's a good point. The thing that makes a filament lamp unattractive as a light source is that its spectrum is largely IR. Its efficiency as an IR heating source makes it less unattractive. I would be interested to know how the overall losses (including a LV power source) for an IR array would compare with a filament with its supply.
There could be advantages for a LED as it could be more physically robust but I wonder about its operating temperature? You would be needing several tens of Watts and would the resulting temperature not be a problem.
 
IsleVegan said:
I appreciate the encouragement. I quickly found a example of a hand held "pain relieving" ir wand with 72 LEDs. I have some ideas on this. Want to chat?

Sure. I have done a lot of work on this - but too much on my own. The core of my idea is to use the IR LED as a focused means of heating. This could result in major energy savings on space heating. You may also google MIT "local heating" for a similar project - although they may not be active at this the moment.

How about your ideas?
 

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