Infrared LED - Transmitting Multiple Bits

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interfacing of a shift register with an infrared (IR) LED to transmit a series of 4 bits to a GaAs phototransistor. Participants explore the design and functionality of the circuit, including the response time of the phototransistor and the driving capabilities of the shift register.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their approach of using a shift register to load and transmit binary values serially through an IR LED.
  • Another participant suggests a basic circuit configuration for connecting the shift register output to the LED.
  • A participant raises concerns about the phototransistor's ability to read the output from the shift register quickly, noting the relatively slow response times of phototransistors compared to photodiodes.
  • There is a proposal to use a decoder to interpret the pulses received by the phototransistor.
  • One participant advises checking the shift register's specifications to ensure it can provide sufficient current to drive the LED, suggesting the addition of a driving transistor if necessary.
  • A correction is made regarding the grounding of the base of the phototransistor, indicating that it should not be grounded as it is the region where light strikes to enable conduction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of certainty regarding the circuit design and the performance of the components involved. There is no consensus on the optimal configuration or the effectiveness of the proposed solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential limitations related to the specifications of the shift register and the operational characteristics of the phototransistor, including response times and current drive capabilities.

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Hi all, quick question here.

As part of a sophomore seminar class, I have this little task to complete.

I currently want to send a series of 4 bits through an IR LED that will reach a GaAs photo transistor. What I'm doing is using a shift register to load in the binary value (via a parallel link) to the shift register. Then I will clock the chip and output the same value serially. Now, my question is, how do I interface the shift register and my transmitting LED circuit...?

For my LED circuit, I'm thinking about something like (schematic drawing... these parts are in series)... Vdd --- IR LED --- Resistor --- GND.

I'm not too sure how to interface the two.
 
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How about: shift register output---resistor---led---ground?
 
Ah.

When I clock the shift register it will be spitting out the bits and providing voltages for that... will the phototransistor be able to read it that quickly? i know phototransistors have relatively slow response times compared to photodiodes...

but anyway, assuming that it works (I will have to check it out on Tuesday when I have access to my lab), I have a design that may or may not work for the ir receiver...

what I have is a phototransistor, base is grounded, collector is connected to resistor, connected to voltage source, and the emitter is grounded. I will be measuring the voltage just at the collector... now I'm thinking about using a decoder to find out what pulses were sent by the LED?
 
One note here about driving the led with the output of your shift register. You need to check the registers specs to see if it has enough drive (current out) to turn on the LED. If not, then you can add a driving transistor.

"will the phototransistor be able to read it that quickly?"

Depends on how fast you are clocking the shift register.

"what I have is a phototransistor, base is grounded..."

The base of a phototransistor should not be grounded. This is the region where the light strikes which will cause a conduction from collector to emitter.

EDIT: Here is a http://www.fairchildsemi.com/an/AN/AN-3005.pdf" on phototransistors that might be useful.
 
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