Integral computation in scattering theory

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The discussion revolves around the computation of a specific integral related to scattering theory, particularly in the context of quantum mechanics as presented in Weinberg's Lecture notes. The integral involves a potential function and is connected to concepts such as retarded potentials and Legendre polynomials.

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Main Points Raised

  • Participant Pierre seeks assistance in computing the integral $$\int d^3 xd^3 x' V(\vec{x~}) V(\vec{x'}) / |\vec{x~} - \vec{x'}|^2$$ with the potential ##V(r) = -e^{-r/R}/r##, suggesting a connection to retarded potentials.
  • Another participant suggests using the generating function of the Legendre polynomials to approach the integral, proposing a series expansion involving spherical harmonics.
  • Pierre acknowledges the suggestion and expresses intent to explore this method further.
  • Pierre later reports partial success using a squared Legendre expansion and an online computational tool, noting that the result is close to the expected form but differs by a factor of 2, which he attributes to convergence constraints.
  • Pierre mentions additional unresolved details related to the limit behavior of the Exponential integral and other functions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the computation of the integral, as Pierre's results differ from the expected outcome, and there are unresolved aspects related to convergence and other mathematical details.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the solvability of the integral and the implications of convergence constraints on the results obtained. There are also mentions of specific mathematical functions that require further clarification.

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Hello everyone,

Still working on my reading of Weinberg's Lecture notes on QM book. At one point, the following integral $$\int d^3 xd^3 x' V(\vec{x~}) V(\vec{x'}) / |\vec{x~} - \vec{x'}|^2$$ has to be computed in the case where ##V(r) = -e^{-r/R}/r##. This reminds me of retarded potentials, but I don't have my other books with me, and cannot find a way to compute this integral. I've been trying with some residues, but this is unwieldy. The result should be ##8\pi^2 R^2##.
Thanks for any hints that would help me compute it.
Bye,
Pierre
 
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I think you can employ the generating function of the Legendre polynomials. Using this, you can write
$$
\frac{1}{\sqrt{|\mathbf{x}-\mathbf{x}'|}} = \sum_{l=0}^\infty \sum_{m=-l}^{m=l} \frac{4\pi}{2l+1} \frac{(x_<)^l}{(x_>)^{l+1}} Y_{lm}^*(\theta,\phi) Y_{lm}(\theta',\phi')
$$
using the orthonormality of the spherical harmonics, you can simplify the sums.
I haven't tried myself though, nor know whether the resulting integral will be solvable but at least I know where this is going to.
 
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Hi blue_leaf,

Thanks a lot for the hint. I'll look into this approach :)

Bye,

Pierre
 
Hi blue_leaf,

Indeed, this seems to (almost) work, using a squared Legendre expansion of ##1/|\vec{x}-\vec{x'}|## in the orthogonal ##P_l(cos (\gamma))## polynomials (no need to go to harmonics). I used the online version of Wolfram Alpha (great tool, and free) to compute the sum and integrate the resulting function; I do get something in ##\pi^2R^2##, although the coefficient is off by a factor of 2 -- although I can almost make up a story why just half of the result is valid, due to convergence constraints. But since they are other minor details that elude me (limit behavior of Exponential integral Ei and tanh##{}^{-1}##, among others), I'll feel happy for now :)

Thanks for your help, which had me dig more into these issues.

Pierre
 
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