Integral representation of the delta function

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The discussion revolves around the integral representation of the delta function in the context of Fourier transforms. Participants explore the relationship between a function and its Fourier transform, particularly focusing on the identity transformation represented by the delta function.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the Fourier transform and its inverse, questioning the meaning of the notation used and the nature of the delta function as an identity operator. There is exploration of how the delta function operates at a specific point in time and its role in approximating functions.

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The conversation is active, with participants seeking clarification on the notation and the conceptual understanding of the delta function. Some guidance has been offered regarding the definition and properties of the delta function, but multiple interpretations and questions remain unresolved.

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Participants are navigating through the definitions and properties of the delta function and Fourier transforms, with some expressing uncertainty about the notation and its implications. There is a recognition that the delta function serves as an identity operator under specific conditions, which is under discussion.

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What is this really saying? I can see that a functino is the inverse Fourier transform of the Fourier transform... and it doesn't matter which way round you integrate. Is that all it's saying. What's the difference between f(t) and f(t')

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Thomas
 
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Fourier transform is a linear integral transform that maps a function f to F, inverse FT maps back to f. So iFt{Ft{f}}=f for all f (that satisfies blah blah blah ...), therefore iFt{Ft{.}} is an identity transformation, i.e., delta function.
 
I get what you mean all upto

therefore iFt{Ft{.}} is an identity transformation, i.e., delta function.

?? what is the dot meant to represent? How does it become a delta func?
 
thomas49th said:
I get what you mean all upto

therefore iFt{Ft{.}} is an identity transformation, i.e., delta function.

?? what is the dot meant to represent? How does it become a delta func?

Sorry my bad notation. FT{.} is a integral operator that acts on functions, where the dot is replaced by a function f, i.e., FT{f} means Fourier transform of function f. iFT{FT{.}} is the composition of the operator iFT and FT, i.e., successively applying the two operators. Since successively applying the two ops to f gives back f, the composition of the two ops is the identity operator, i.e., delta function. Remember delta function is defined as an integral operator which, when applied to a function f, gives back f.
 
ahhh
"delta function is defined as an integral operator which, when applied to a function f, gives back f."

i didn't really think of it like that. But the delta function only works as an identity function a specific instant in time. So it only works for a function at a particular point agreed?

edit: We can approximate a function using a train of diracs (shannon sampling or some baloni like that). But to say it's a true identity ... only for a specific instant
 
thomas49th said:
ahhh
"delta function is defined as an integral operator which, when applied to a function f, gives back f."

i didn't really think of it like that. But the delta function only works as an identity function a specific instant in time. So it only works for a function at a particular point agreed?

edit: We can approximate a function using a train of diracs (shannon sampling or some baloni like that). But to say it's a true identity ... only for a specific instant

If you have to think pointwise, consider ∫ δ(t-t')f(t') dt'=f(t), agreed?
And iFT{FT{f(t')}}(t)=∫ dω exp(iωt) [itex]\frac{1}{2\pi}[/itex]∫ exp(-iωt')f(t') dt'=f(t), agreed?
Now note ∫ dω exp(iωt) [itex]\frac{1}{2\pi}[/itex]∫ exp(-iωt')f(t') dt'=∫ [[itex]\frac{1}{2\pi}[/itex]∫ dω exp(iω(t-t'))]*f(t') dt', comparing the two, you find δ(t-t')=[itex]\frac{1}{2\pi}[/itex]∫ dω exp(iω(t-t'))
 

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