Tricky integration (maybe delta function)

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The discussion revolves around the integration of a complex function involving an exponential term and a denominator that suggests a connection to the delta function. The original poster is attempting to reverse Fourier transform a function, indicating a context within Fourier analysis.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants suggest various methods, including contour integration in the complex plane, while the original poster expresses uncertainty about this approach. There are attempts to reformulate the integral using substitutions and to analyze the behavior of the integrand.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to tackle the integration problem. Some participants have provided insights into the structure of the integral and its relation to known functions, while others are questioning the appropriateness of the suggested techniques and the original poster's understanding of the material.

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Participants note that the original poster may not have been taught certain advanced techniques, such as contour integration, and express concern regarding the legitimacy of differentiating under the integral sign. There is also mention of potential reliance on transform tables, which may not have been covered in their coursework.

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Homework Statement


I need to integrate

##\frac{A}{2a\sqrt{2\pi}} \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \frac{e^{ik(x+x')}}{(b^2+k^2)}dk##

I have tried substitution and integration by parts and that hasn't worked. I can see that part of it is the delta function, but I don't really know how to use that fact! I think the delta function is

##\delta(x+x') = \frac{1}{2\pi}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} e^{ik(x+x')}dk##

Which is almost exactly what I have. If it helps, this is from trying to reverse Fourier transform a function. How can I integrate this?

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Try a contour integration in the complex plane.
 
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vela said:
Try a contour integration in the complex plane.
That sounds well beyond anything we've been taught! I've never heard of contour integration, in the complex plane or otherwise... Is that the only method?
 
Maybe I have the integral wrong, let me double check.
 
Kara386 said:

Homework Statement


I need to integrate

##\frac{A}{2a\sqrt{2\pi}} \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \frac{e^{ik(x+x')}}{(b^2+k^2)}dk##

I have tried substitution and integration by parts and that hasn't worked. I can see that part of it is the delta function, but I don't really know how to use that fact! I think the delta function is

##\delta(x+x') = \frac{1}{2\pi}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} e^{ik(x+x')}dk##

Which is almost exactly what I have. If it helps, this is from trying to reverse Fourier transform a function. How can I integrate this?

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The Attempt at a Solution


Let ##x+x'= y##, so you want to evaluate
I(y) = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \frac{\exp(iky)}{k^2+b^2} \, dk.
Write ##\exp(iky) = \cos(ky) + i \sin(ky)##, and note that in the integral the denominator is even in ##k##, while ##\sin(ky)## is odd in ##k##. Therefore, without any need for computation we conclude that the imaginary part = 0 because the "##\sin##" term integrates to zero for any fixed ##y##. Thus, we have
I(y) = 2 \int_0^{\infty} \frac{\cos(ky)}{k^2+b^2} \, dk.

Assuming we can legitimately differentiate wrt ##y## under the integral sign, we have
\begin{array}{rcl}\frac{d^2}{dy^2} I(y) &amp;= &amp;2 \int_0^{\infty} \frac{-k^2 \cos(ky)}{k^2+b^2} \, dk \\<br /> &amp;=&amp; -2 \int_0^{\infty} \frac{(k^2 + b^2 - b^2)\cos(ky)}{k^2 + b^2} \\<br /> &amp;=&amp; - 2 \int_0^{\infty} \cos(ky) \, dy + 2 b^2 \int_0^{\infty} \frac{\cos(ky)}{k^2+b^2} \, dk \\<br /> &amp;=&amp; - 2 \int_0^{\infty} \cos(ky) \, dy + b^2 I(y) <br /> \end{array}<br />
Thus, you have a DE ##I''(y) - b^2 I(y) = f(y)##, where ##f(y) = -2 \int_0^{\infty} \cos(ky) \, dk##. Do you recognize ##f(y)## from somewhere?

Of course, to get the full ##I(y)## you need two boundary conditions on ##I(y)##, such as values of ##I(0)## and ##I'(0)##, and both of these can be obtained from results you have seen already (or can derive on your own).

There remains a serious issue, however: we just carelessly differentiated under the integral sign and further split the resulting integral into two separate integrations. Those manipulations need justification, but for now I will leave it.
 
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Kara386 said:
That sounds well beyond anything we've been taught! I've never heard of contour integration, in the complex plane or otherwise... Is that the only method?
Are you allowed to just look the transform in a table?
 
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Ray Vickson said:
Let ##x+x'= y##, so you want to evaluate
I(y) = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \frac{\exp(iky)}{k^2+b^2} \, dk.
Write ##\exp(iky) = \cos(ky) + i \sin(ky)##, and note that in the integral the denominator is even in ##k##, while ##\sin(ky)## is odd in ##k##. Therefore, without any need for computation we conclude that the imaginary part = 0 because the "##\sin##" term integrates to zero for any fixed ##y##. Thus, we have
I(y) = 2 \int_0^{\infty} \frac{\cos(ky)}{k^2+b^2} \, dk.

Assuming we can legitimately differentiate wrt ##y## under the integral sign, we have
\begin{array}{rcl}\frac{d^2}{dy^2} I(y) &amp;= &amp;2 \int_0^{\infty} \frac{-k^2 \cos(ky)}{k^2+b^2} \, dk \\<br /> &amp;=&amp; -2 \int_0^{\infty} \frac{(k^2 + b^2 - b^2)\cos(ky)}{k^2 + b^2} \\<br /> &amp;=&amp; - 2 \int_0^{\infty} \cos(ky) \, dy + 2 b^2 \int_0^{\infty} \frac{\cos(ky)}{k^2+b^2} \, dk \\<br /> &amp;=&amp; - 2 \int_0^{\infty} \cos(ky) \, dy + b^2 I(y)<br /> \end{array}<br />
Thus, you have a DE ##I''(y) - b^2 I(y) = f(y)##, where ##f(y) = -2 \int_0^{\infty} \cos(ky) \, dk##. Do you recognize ##f(y)## from somewhere?

Of course, to get the full ##I(y)## you need two boundary conditions on ##I(y)##, such as values of ##I(0)## and ##I'(0)##, and both of these can be obtained from results you have seen already (or can derive on your own).

There remains a serious issue, however: we just carelessly differentiated under the integral sign and further split the resulting integral into two separate integrations. Those manipulations need justification, but for now I will leave it.

Brilliant, thank you!
 
vela said:
Are you allowed to just look the transform in a table?
Maybe! I don't think we've been taught the right techniques to actually evaluate it. I'll ask my lecturer about the tables. Thanks for helping! :)
 

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