What is the solution set for dy/dx = 3y?

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The discussion revolves around finding the solution set for the differential equation dy/dx = 3y, specifically exploring the form of the solutions and the techniques used to derive them.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the method of separation of variables as a technique to solve the differential equation. There are attempts to clarify the transformation of the solution from y = e^3x + e^c to the form y = Ce^3x. Questions arise regarding the constants involved and their implications in the solution.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the separation of variables technique and the manipulation of constants in the solution. There is an acknowledgment of the mathematical principles involved, but no explicit consensus has been reached on the interpretation of the constants.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the nature of constants in the context of the solution and clarify terminology related to logarithmic functions.

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can some one explain to me how the set of all solutions for dy/dx = 3y
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y= Ce^3x
 
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Simply separate the variables.
<br /> \begin{align*}<br /> \frac{dy}{dx} &amp; = 3y \\<br /> \frac 1 y \frac dy dx &amp; = 3 \\<br /> \int \left(\frac 1 y\right) \left(\frac{dy}{dx}\right) \, dx &amp; =\int 3 \, dx<br /> \end{align*}<br />

You should be able to finish from here.
 
Try rearranging your equation to get it in the form f(y)dy=g(x) dx. Then integrate both sides.

This type of differential equation technique is called 'separation of variables'
 
i got y= e^3x + e^c

how does that become y= Ce^3x
 
Instead of e3x + eC, you should have gotten e3x + C = e3xeC = C' e3x

(Here, C' = eC. After all, eC is just a constant.)
 
o ok thanks got it.
 
this is variable separable. c is constant, then you can make it In c so that when using the e function, In c become only c.
 
darkmagic said:
this is variable separable. c is constant, then you can make it In c so that when using the e function, In c become only c.
The function is LN, not IN. The letters come from Latin: logarithmus naturalis.
 
Here's a proof of the general case that I got from Courant's Introduction to Calculus and Analysis. This is one of my favourite proofs:

"If a function y = f(x) satisfies an equation of the form y&#039; = \alpha y where \alpha is a constant, then y has the form y = f(x) = ce^{\alpha x} where c is also a consant; conversely, every function of the form ce^{\alpha x} satisfies the equation y&#039; = \alpha y.


It is clear that y = ce^{\alpha x} satisfies this equation for any arbitrary constant c. Conversely, no other function satisfies the differential equation y&#039; - \alpha y = =. For if y is such a function, we consider the function u = ye^{-\alpha x}. We then have



u&#039; = y&#039;e^{-\alpha x} - \alpha y e^{-\alpha x} = e^{-\alpha x}(y&#039; - \alpha y}) .

However, the right-hand side vanishes, since we have assumed that y&#039; = \alpha y; hence u&#039; = 0 so that u is a constant c and y = ce^{\alpha x} as we wished to prove."
 
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yes its ln but I type In. Sorry.
 

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