Integrating √(1+sin x) - Calculus II

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function √(1+sin x) within the context of Calculus II. Participants explore various methods and substitutions to tackle the integral ∫√(1+sin x) dx, noting the challenges encountered in finding a solution.

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  • Participants suggest using the substitution u = sin x to simplify the integral, while others express concerns about the missing cosine factor in the differential. There is also a discussion about whether the integral is definite or indefinite, with references to symmetry properties of sine and cosine functions to potentially simplify the problem.

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The conversation is ongoing, with various approaches being discussed. Some participants have provided insights into symmetry arguments and substitutions, while others are still questioning the effectiveness of these strategies. There is no explicit consensus on a method yet.

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It is noted that the integral has limits [0, π], which influences the discussion on symmetry and potential simplifications. Participants are also considering the implications of these limits on their approaches.

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How would you integrate this. I tried all integration methods available in Calculus II to no avail.

∫√(1+sin x) dx
 
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Did you try u = sinx? That should give you something easy to work with.
 
Bohrok said:
Did you try u = sinx? That should give you something easy to work with.

I tried but d(sin x)/dx is cos x. We're missing the cos(x) here. :)
 
is this indefinite or does it have limits? if there is limits you may be able to use the symmetry with cos to simplify things
 
lanedance said:
is this indefinite or does it have limits? if there is limits you may be able to use the symmetry with cos to simplify things

It has limits [0,∏]. I know the cosine is a symmetrical function, but could you please expand a little on your symmetry argument in solving this integral.
thank you
 
well if you draw the sin and cos functions, you might be able to convince yourself that (could also do it by hand using pi/2 funtion shifts & negative angles):

based on symmetry of the sin function around pi/2
[tex]\int_0^{\pi} dx \frac{1}{\sqrt{1+sin(x)}} = 2 \int_0^{\pi/2} dx \frac{1}{\sqrt{1+sin(x)}}[/tex]

and based on symmetry of the sin & cos functions on the interval [0,pi/2]
[tex]\int_0^{\pi/2} dx \frac{1}{\sqrt{1+sin(x)}} = \int_0^{\pi/2} dx \frac{1}{\sqrt{1+cos(x)}}[/tex]

so you could re-write the integral as
[tex]\int_0^{\pi/2} dx (\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+sin(x)}} + \frac{1}{\sqrt{1+cos(x)}})[/tex]

unfortunately after all that, I'm not sure whether it helps, remember a similar looking integral and though it might be worth a go... sorry ;(
 
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so if you bought up to here
[tex]\int_0^{\pi} dx \frac{1}{\sqrt{1+sin(x)}} = 2 \int_0^{\pi/2} dx \frac{1}{\sqrt{1+cos(x)}}[/tex]

how about using half angle
[tex]cos(x) = 2cos^2(x/2)-1[/tex]

then
[tex]\int_0^{\pi/2} dx \frac{1}{\sqrt{1+cos(x)}}= \int_0^{\pi/2} dx \frac{1}{\sqrt{2} cos(x/2)}[/tex]

which is getting maybe a little more tractable...?
 
I hadn't looked at it too closely at first, but this one is a little tricky where you need another subtle substitution:

[tex]\int \sqrt{1 + sinx} ~dx[/tex]
u = sinx → x = sin-1u

du = cosx dx

[tex]\frac{du}{\cos(\sin^{-1}u)} = dx[/tex]

[tex]\int \frac{\sqrt{1 + u}}{\cos(\sin^{-1}u)} du[/tex]
 

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