Integrating 6/(sqrt(4-x^2)): A Trig Substitution Problem

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The discussion revolves around the integral of the function 6/(sqrt(4-x^2)), which involves trigonometric substitution techniques. Participants are exploring various methods to approach this integral and are comparing their results with those from computational tools.

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  • Participants discuss different substitution methods, including trigonometric substitutions such as x = 2sin(u). There are attempts to simplify the integral by factoring and pulling out constants. Some participants express confusion regarding discrepancies between their results and those from Wolfram Alpha.

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Several participants have provided insights into their approaches, with some noting corrections to their earlier attempts. There is an ongoing exploration of the integral's setup and the implications of missing elements like dx in their calculations. No explicit consensus has been reached, but productive dialogue continues.

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Homework Statement



Integral of 6/(sqrt(4-x^2))

Homework Equations



arcsin(u) = u'/ sqrt(1-u^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



WA gave a different answer
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Integral+of+6%2F%28sqrt%284-x^2%29%29

I got the following:

Integral of 6/(sqrt(4-x^2))
divide by 4 to reduce to 1-u^2, and pull out the constant 4: 1/4 int of 6/sqrt(1-(x/2)^2
i was going to pull out the six right away, but i could integrate that with du.
u = x/2, du = 1/2 dx, so 2 du = dx
i get 12 inside, and pull out the 12, i get 12/4 int u' / sqrt(1-u^2)
which gives me 3 arcsin(x/2)+c

but this is not right from WA.

Thank you.
 
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U sub
x=2sin(u),
dx=2cos(u)du.
It'll become
6*2cos(u)/((4-4(sin(u))^2)^(1/2)
 
jwxie said:

Homework Statement



Integral of 6/(sqrt(4-x^2))

Homework Equations



arcsin(u) = u'/ sqrt(1-u^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



WA gave a different answer
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Integral+of+6%2F%28sqrt%284-x^2%29%29

I got the following:

Integral of 6/(sqrt(4-x^2))
divide by 4 to reduce to 1-u^2, and pull out the constant 4: 1/4 int of 6/sqrt(1-(x/2)^2
i was going to pull out the six right away, but i could integrate that with du.
u = x/2, du = 1/2 dx, so 2 du = dx
i get 12 inside, and pull out the 12, i get 12/4 int u' / sqrt(1-u^2)
which gives me 3 arcsin(x/2)+c

but this is not right from WA.

Thank you.

\sqrt{4 - x^2} = \sqrt{4(1 - x^2/4)} = 2 \sqrt{1 - (x/2)^2}

I got the same as WA. This is a very simple trig substitution. I always draw a right triangle, since I don't like to clutter up my head with a bunch of formulas if I don't have to. The hypotenuse is 2, the opposite side is x, and the adjacent side is sqrt(4 - x^2).

From this I get 2sinw = x, and 2cosw dw = dx, and 2 cos w = sqrt(4 - x^2)

\int \frac{6 dx}{\sqrt{4 - x^2}} = 6 \int \frac{2cos w dw}{2cos w} = 6\int dw = 6w + C

From 2sin w = x, I get sin w = x/2 ==> w = sin-1(x/2), so the antiderivative is 6sin-1(x/2) + C.

YOU KEEP FORGETTING YOUR DX! IT WILL COME AROUND TO BITE YOU ONE DAY!
 
Hi. Thank you for doing these for me.
I think I have learned the mistake.
All the sub are corected except when I pulled out the 1/4 , i didn't square root it. It should be 1/2 outside.

LOL Thanks. I just left dx out since there was only one variable, namely, x.

But I WILL REMEMBER THAT...
 

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