Integrating Functions with Variables: Solving Differential Equations

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation represented as f'(x) = x + 1 - yx - y, where the original poster seeks to find f(x). The subject area includes differential equations and integration techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to integrate both sides of the equation but expresses confusion regarding the presence of the variable y in the function. Some participants suggest that the equation can be manipulated into a separable form, while others clarify the relationship between f(x) and y.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the separability of the differential equation, and there is acknowledgment of the original poster's misunderstanding of variable representation.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the notation used for the function, with the original poster using f(x) instead of y, which has led to some misinterpretation of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement



f'(x)= x+1-yx-y

Solve for f(x)


Homework Equations



definitions of integrals and derivatives


The Attempt at a Solution



Okay, so I integrated both sides.

This gives f(x) = x^2/2 + x -integral(yx) - integral(y) +c

The problem I'm having is how do you integrate when there is a y in the function? I'm guessing this has something to do with the definition, i.e. f(x)=y=integral(f'(x)), I'm just not sure how to manipulate the equation. Does anyone know the trick to this?
 
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So you've got the equation y'=x+1-yx-y. This is a separable ODE, you can write it as y'=(x+1)-y(x+1). Thus y'/(1-y)=x+1.
Can you solve it now?
 
Thanks again micromass
 
micromass said:
So you've got the equation y'=x+1-yx-y. This is a separable ODE, you can write it as y'=(x+1)-y(x+1). Thus y'/(1-y)=x+1.
Can you solve it now?

ummm but he stated f(x), not a function of y. Unless I'm mistaken
 
Sorry i was given dy/dx and was asked to solve for y, i just replaced with with f(x) and dy/dx with f'(x). The solution was to separate the variables, I forgot all about it.
 

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