Integrating \int \frac{x}{sqrt{x+3}}dx: Simple Integration Methods Explained

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function \(\int \frac{x}{\sqrt{x+3}}dx\), exploring different substitution methods for solving the integral. Participants are examining the validity of two proposed substitution techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts two different substitutions to solve the integral, questioning which method yields the correct result. Some participants raise concerns about the algebraic manipulation in the first approach, while others inquire if both methods lead to equivalent solutions.

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Participants are actively discussing the validity of both substitution methods. Some suggest that both approaches are correct, while others point out potential errors in the algebraic steps of the first method. There is an ongoing examination of the implications of these findings.

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There is mention of a possible misprint in a textbook regarding the first substitution method, which adds to the complexity of the discussion. Participants are also considering the implications of adjusting integration constants in the context of proving equivalence between solutions.

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Integrate [tex]\int \frac{x}{sqrt{x+3}}dx \\[/tex]
(i) I can integrate this by letting U^2=x+3 => [tex]u=\sqrt{x+3} \ \mbox{ so } \ x=u^2-3 \ \mbox{and } \ dx=2udu \ \mbox{then the integral = } \ \int\frac{(u^2-3)2u}{u}du \\[/tex]
[tex]\ =2(\frac{u^3}{3}-3u) + C \\ \ = \ \frac{2}{3}(u^2-9) + C \ = \ \frac{2}{3}(x-6)\sqrt{x+3} +C \\[/tex]
Or (ii) I can integrate above if I let u=x+3 => [tex]\ \frac{du}{dx}=1 \ \mbox{ therefore } \ du = dx \ \mbox{ and } \ x=u-3 \ \\[/tex]. [tex]\mbox{ then } = \ \int\frac{u-3}{u^{\frac{1}{2}} du \ = \ \int u^{\frac{1}{2}}du \ -\ 3 \int u^{\frac{-1}{2}} du \ = \ \frac{2}{3} u^{\frac{3}{2}} \ - \ 6u^{\frac{1}{2}} +C \ \\[/tex].[tex]\ = \ \frac{2}{3}(x+3)^{\frac{3}{2}} \ -6(x+3)^{\frac{1}{2}} + C\\[/tex]. Which is correct (i) or (ii), and why? Thanks a lot.
 
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The substitution is fine on the first one. But how does 2(u^3/3-3u) turn into (2/3)*(u^2-9)? The second one is fine.
 
So you are telling me that both substitutions are valid? That is answer (i) and (ii) are equal? It is a mis-print.
 
Indeed, both substitutions are valid. Sometimes there are several ways to come to a solution in doing integrals. One is often more preferable over the other due the length of the algebra involved. Practice is the only way to recognize the appropriate one. In your case both are equally usable.

The first solution (with a minor typo) can be rewritten as:

[tex]\frac{2}{3}\sqrt{x+3}\cdot (x-6)+C=\frac{2}{3}\sqrt{x+3}\cdot (x-9+3)+C[/tex]

Expanding this gives you the second solution, which is therefore proven to be the same.

Sometimes you need to adjust the integration constant, to show that two solutions are indeed the same, but not here.
 
There appears to be a mistake in the first substitution as Dick has pointed out. If that's printed in a textbook then it appears to be a misprint.
 

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