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The discussion revolves around integrating a specific expression related to an RL circuit, focusing on the integral of voltage multiplied by current over a time interval. The integral in question is from 0 to 2 seconds of the function (emf^2/R)(1 - e^(-Rt/L)).

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  • Participants explore the correct setup of the integral and whether variables can be factored out. There are attempts to clarify the integration process, including suggestions for substitution and splitting the integral into manageable parts.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the integral. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the factoring of constants and the method of integration, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the steps involved in integration, indicating a lack of recent experience with similar problems. There is a request for a step-by-step breakdown of the integration process.

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It's been a while since I've done some of these less common integrals. This is for a physics problem but I need to integrate...

int from 0 to 2sec: (emf^2/R) (1-e^(-Rt/L))
basically integrating voltage*current for an RL circuit.

How do I do this?
 
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Is this the integral?
[tex]\int_0^2 \frac{E^2}{R}(1 - e^{-Rt/L})dt[/tex]

I'm assuming that the only variable is t. Split the integral above into two integrals, the first of which is very easy. For the second integral, use the substitution u = -Rt/L, and du = -R/L dt.
 
ok so the first integral [tex]\frac{E^2}{R}[/tex] can be pulled out leaving:

[tex]\frac{E^2}{R}\int_0^2 \frac{-E^2}{R}(e^{-Rt/L})dt[/tex]

correct?

can you pull out the other E^2/R and have just:

[tex]-\frac{E^4}{R^2}\int_0^2 (e^{-Rt/L})dt[/tex]

and then by u substitution get:

[tex]-\frac{E^4}{R^2}\int_0^2 (e^{u})du[/tex] ?

Sorry, haven't done these for a lonng while.
 
Pete_01 said:
ok so the first integral [tex]\frac{E^2}{R}[/tex] can be pulled out leaving:

[tex]\frac{E^2}{R}\int_0^2 \frac{-E^2}{R}(e^{-Rt/L})dt[/tex]

correct?
No. You need to split the integrals using
[tex]\int (f(x) - g(x)) dx = \int f(x) dx - \int g(x) dx[/tex]

Distribute the fraction, then split the integral.69
 
eumyang said:
No. You need to split the integrals using
[tex]\int (f(x) - g(x)) dx = \int f(x) dx - \int g(x) dx[/tex]

Distribute the fraction, then split the integral.


69

Ok, but in my problem the E and R are constants so can't I take them out?
 
If you take out E^2/R first, you will have two terms in the integrand. If you do it that way, I would still recommend splitting the integral into two parts.
 
Mark44 said:
If you take out E^2/R first, you will have two terms in the integrand. If you do it that way, I would still recommend splitting the integral into two parts.

Could someone please go step by step and show me how to do this? It's such a small part of the original problem. Thank you
 
Pete_01 said:
Could someone please go step by step and show me how to do this? It's such a small part of the original problem. Thank you

You have this right?

[tex]\int_0^2 \frac{E^2}{R}(1 - e^{-Rt/L})dt[/tex]

So let's do as Mark44 said and take out the E2/R. You will be left with


[tex]\frac{E^2}{R} \int_0^2 (1 - e^{-Rt/L})dt[/tex]

Are you able to evaluate this now?
 

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