Integrating the function √(12 -x^2)

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The discussion revolves around integrating the function f(x) = √(12 - x²), which falls under the subject area of calculus, specifically integral calculus. Participants are exploring various methods to approach the integration of this function.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to split the function and use substitution, but encounters difficulties with integration by parts. Other participants suggest using trigonometric substitution, specifically x = √12 sin(u), and discuss the implications of this substitution. There are also mentions of sketching a triangle to visualize the problem. Some participants express uncertainty about their progress and question whether their current approaches are correct.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with different methods of integration, with some providing guidance on trigonometric substitutions. There is a mix of interpretations and attempts, with no explicit consensus reached on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express fatigue and confusion regarding their attempts, indicating a challenging problem context. There are references to specific identities and transformations being considered, but no definitive conclusions have been drawn.

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Homework Statement



Integrate the function,

f(x) = √(12 -x2)


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The Attempt at a Solution



I tried splitting the function up as follows:

f(x) = √(12+x)*√(12-x)

then I tried substituting in,

w=12-x and dw=-dx, to get,

∫-2w3/2(2√12-w)1/2dw

and finally I attempted to use integration by parts on the above integral; however this seems to be a dead end. I know the answer is:

1/2*√(-x^2 + 12)*x + 6*arcsin(1/6*sqrt(3)*x)

I just can't seem to work it out for myself.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Chris
 
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For [itex]\displaystyle \int\sqrt{12-x^2}\,dx[/itex] use the substitution x = (√12)sin(u), then dx = (√12)cos(u) du .

Then [itex]\displaystyle \sqrt{12-x^2}=\sqrt{12-12\sin^2(u)}\,,[/itex] etc.
 
As SammyS says, a trig substitution is the way to go here. Since I don't try to remember which trig substitution should be applied, I just sketch a right triangle, labeling the sides and hypotenuse according to the expression inside the radical.

The expression 12 - x2 suggests that the hypotenuse is of length √12, and I can label the altitude as x, and the angle opposite the altitude as θ.

From this I get sin(θ) = x/√12, or x = √12*sin(θ), which is essentially the same as what SammyS is recommending.
 
Thanks Sammy and Mark,

Will give it a go. Also, I think Mark's the first person I've encountered who's actually given a methodology for determining an appropriate substitution. Thanks :)

Regards,

Chris
 
Well...

It would seem I have fried my brain with the late nights spent trying to work this out. So far I've got;

∫cos3u.du

and once again, I know the answer (=1/3*sin3u +sinu), but for the life of me I can't figure out how to get there. Is having the function in the form cos3u the right way to go? I swear I'm overlooking something blindingly obvious here.

Regards,

Chris
 
OK,

Well now I'm trying to use the trig identity cos3x = 4cos3x -3cosx

Sound like the right way to go?

Regards,

Chris
 
Chrisistaken said:
OK,

Well now I'm trying to use the trig identity cos3x = 4cos3x -3cosx

Sound like the right way to go?

Regards,

Chris
That should work fine, but aren't you integrating cos2(u).
 
Well now I'm not to sure. After substituting in,

x = √12*sin(u)

I got,

dx = √12*cos(u)du

Putting both of these back into the integral I then had,

∫√(12 -12*sin2(u))*√12*cos(u)du

=∫√(12(1 -sin2(u))*√12*cos(u)du

using the trig identity, cos2(u) +sin2(u) = 1

I then realized whilst writing this that I didn't take the square root of the first cos term. Need sleep...

Thanks Sammy

Regards,

Chris
 

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