Integrating x√(x^2+a^2) using Substitution Method

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the integral of the function x√(x² + a²) with respect to x, specifically as a definite integral from 0 to a. The original poster presents their approach using substitution and expresses uncertainty about dropping the constant a² during differentiation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts a substitution method, defining u as x² + a² and questioning the validity of dropping a². Other participants inquire about the implications of treating a as a constant and the significance of the limits of integration.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's concerns, providing clarifications about the treatment of constants in differentiation and the relationship between the limits of integration in the substitution process. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of dropping terms and how it affects the evaluation of the integral.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes that a is one of the limits of integration, which raises questions about the appropriateness of dropping a² during the substitution process. This aspect is under discussion among participants.

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Hello,

evaluate the following integral:

\int x \sqrt{x^2+a^2}dx

definite integral from 0 to a

what I did was

u = x^2 + a^2
du = 2xdx

1/2 sqrt(u)du

I just dropped the a^2 because we were finding the derivative of x but feel that it's very wrong.Any suggestions are much appreciated.

thanks.
 
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sapiental said:
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I just dropped the a^2 because we were finding the derivative of x but feel that it's very wrong.

It's correct, if a is a constant.
 
Why do you feel it is wrong?
Ask yourself:
1. What is the derivative of a constant?

2. What are the corresponding u-limits compared to the given x-limits?
 
You'll notice that when you go from u to x again, the a2 term pops back in.

So it's not like you completely lost it
 
hey,

thanks again for all the help. I learn so much from this website and it helps me be much more confident with the problems.

d/dx of C = 0

and the corresponing u limits are 0 + a^2 and a^2 + a^2

what throws me off about dropping the a^2 is that a itself is one of the limits of integration.

thanks!
 
Why should that matter??
Would you have accepted it if the limit was some number c instead?
 
ah ok, I understand now. thanks again.
 

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