Integration by parts, I on this problem.

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function ∫ (theta)^3 * cos(theta)^2, with a focus on applying integration by parts. Participants are exploring different interpretations of the integral and the appropriate choices for u and dv.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss various assignments of u and dv, questioning the correctness of their choices and the resulting derivatives. There is confusion regarding whether to interpret cos(theta)^2 as u or if it should be expressed differently. Some participants suggest breaking down the integral into simpler components.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and alternative approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the structure of the integral and the potential need for further integration by parts. However, there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

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Participants are navigating through different interpretations of the integral, which has led to some ambiguity in the setup. The original poster's question has evolved, leading to various assumptions about the function being integrated.

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Homework Statement


∫ (theta)^3 *cos(theta)^2


Homework Equations


integration by parts ∫u dv= uv- ∫v du



The Attempt at a Solution


u=theta^3 dv=cos(theta)^2
du=3theta^2 v=sin(theta)^2

here's the problem do i use cos(theta)^2 equal to u, because I'm not sure if the antiderivative i got is right

this is where I'm stuck
 
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If you wrote the problem correctly, then you should put [itex]u=cos(\theta^2)[/itex] since the anti-derivative of it can't be expressed in a way which will help you.
 
ok so u=cos(theta)^2

du=2(theta) *sin(theta)^2
 
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wait...was your question


[tex]\int \theta^3 cos(\theta^2) d\theta[/tex]

OR

[tex]\int \theta^3 (cos\theta)^2 d\theta[/tex]
 
my question was the 1st one you put
 
well in that case. [itex]dv=\theta^3 d\theta[/itex]. v=?. Then put it in the formula.
 
ok i think I'm stuck again now that i have my equation it's
(1/4 cos) (theta)^2 * (theta)^4 - 1/2 ∫theta^4 *(theta)sin(theta)^2
=(1/4) cos (theta)^4 * (theta)^4 -1/2 ∫ (theta)^4 *(theta) sin(theta)^2


i edited it
 
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v= (1/4) theta^4
 
afcwestwarrior said:
ok so u=cos(theta)^2

du=2(theta) *cos(theta)^2


[tex]u=cos(\theta^2)[/tex]

Let [itex]t=\theta^2 \Rightarrow \frac{dt}{d\theta}=2\theta[/itex]

[tex]u=cos(t) \Rightarrow \frac{du}{dt}=-sin(t)[/tex]

[tex]\frac{du}{d\theta}=\frac{du}{dt}*\frac{du}{d\theta}[/tex]

Check back your du.
 
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  • #10
oh i did
 
  • #11
i forgot to put sin
 
  • #12
ok so u=cos (theta)^2
du= - 2(theta) sin theta^2
 
  • #13
You might need to another integration by parts and see if it simplifies.
 
  • #14
=(1/4) cos (theta)^4 * (theta)^4 -1/2 ∫ (theta)^5 * sin(theta)^2

so i take this part ∫ (theta)^4 * sin(theta)^2
u=sin (theta)^2
du= 2 theta * cos (theta)^2
dv=(theta)^5
v=(1/6) (theta^6)

it looks like i'll keep on integrating
 
  • #15
sin (theta)^2 *1/6) (theta^6)-∫ 1/6) (theta^6*2 theta * cos (theta)^2
 
  • #16
afcwestwarrior, that's not necessary.

Notice that you can split the (I'm going to make x = theta) x^3 cos (x^2) into 0.5(x^2)(2x cos (x^2)). You solve the problem by integrating the 2x cos (x^2) term and differentiating the 0.5x^2 term.
 
  • #17
how'd u make it into 0.5(x^2)(2x cos (x^2)).
 
  • #18
Break the x^3 term into x^2 and x.

When you differentiate x^2 you get 2x, so what you need to do is to create a 2x term. So the integral breaks down into 0.5x^2 (2x cos (x^2)).
 
  • #19
oh ok
 

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