Integration by Parts: Solving for the Error in a Tricky Integral

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The discussion revolves around an integral involving integration by parts, specifically the integral of the product of a polynomial and an exponential function multiplied by a sine function. The original poster is attempting to reconcile their results with those presented in a textbook.

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  • Participants are examining the application of integration by parts, questioning the setup of the functions u and dv, and discussing boundary terms. There is a focus on the resulting expressions and potential errors in the calculations.

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Some participants have provided alternative approaches and interpretations of the integration by parts process. The original poster has acknowledged a mistake in their reasoning, while others are exploring the implications of boundary terms and the correct form of the resulting integral.

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There is an emphasis on the limits of integration extending to infinity, and participants are considering the behavior of the functions involved at these limits. The discussion also reflects on the potential for errors when handling terms in integration by parts.

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[SOLVED] Integration by parts

Homework Statement


I've been staring at this for 30 minutes and can't figure out what's wrong. I end up with 1/xi instead of xi. The book says,

\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}te^{-t^2/2}\sin(\xi t)dt=\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}e^{-t^2/2}\xi \cos(\xi t)dt


The Attempt at a Solution



I set u=te^{-t^2/2} and dv = \sin(\xi t). So I get du=e^{-t^2/2}-t^2e^{-t^2/2} and unless I'm completely crazy, v=-\xi^{-1}\cos(\xi t)[/tex], so that<br /> <br /> \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}te^{-t^2/2}\sin(\xi t)dt=te^{-t^2/2}\xi^{-1}\cos(\xi t)|_{-\infty}^{+\infty} + \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}e^{-t^2/2}\xi^{-1}\cos(\xi t)dt - \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}t^2e^{-t^2/2}\xi^{-1}\cos(\xi t)dt = \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}e^{-t^2/2}\xi^{-1}\cos(\xi t)dt<br /> <br /> HELP!
 
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I=-\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}(e^{-t^2/2})&#039;\sin(\xi t)dt=-te^{-t^2/2}\sin(\xi t)|_{-\infty}^{+\infty} + \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}e^{-t^2/2}(\sin(\xi t))&#039;dt = \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}e^{-t^2/2}\xi\cos(\xi t)dt
 
I can't entirely follow what you're doing with the u and dv. I learned partial integration as
\int_a^b f&#039;(x) g(x) dx = - \left. f(x) g(x) \right|_a^b + \int_a^b f(x) g&#039;(x) dx
Applying this to
f&#039;(t) = t e^{-t^2/2}, \qquad \implies \qquad f(t) = - e^{-t^2/2}
and
g(t) = \sin(\xi t), \qquad \implies \qquad g&#039;(t) = \xi \cos(\xi t)
then gives me
\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}te^{-t^2/2}\sin(\xi t)dt =<br /> \left. e^{-t^2/2} \sin(\xi t) \right|_{-\infty}^{+\infty} +<br /> \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} -e^{-t^2/2}\xi \cos(\xi t)dt.<br />
The boundary term vanishes so that gives exactly minus the result you'd like (probably a minus error on my side) but definitely a \xi and not \xi^{-1}. As it should be (otherwise you'd get strange results for \xi = 0).

[edit]I should learn to type LaTeX even faster, Rainbow Child beat me by 5 whole minutes :smile:[/edit]
 
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I see my mistake: the last term does not vanish. Thx!
 

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