Integration by parts x5(lnx)2 dx

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function x5(ln x)2 using integration by parts. Participants are exploring the application of the integration by parts formula and addressing potential errors in the calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply integration by parts, defining u and v, and expressing the integral in terms of these variables. Some participants suggest checking the differentiation of the result to verify correctness, while others point out possible sign and factor errors in the calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's approach, providing feedback on specific steps and calculations. There is a recognition of potential mistakes, particularly regarding signs and factors, but no consensus has been reached on the final solution.

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Some participants note that the original poster is learning integration by parts from a book and may be struggling with the concept. There are indications of confusion regarding the simplification of terms and the accuracy of the integration process.

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Homework Statement



Integrate the following:
(Ill use { as the integration sign)

{x5(lnx)2 dx

Homework Equations


{u dv = uv - {v du

I'm really new to integration by parts, and unfortunately I am having to learn it out of a book for now. I sort of get the idea, but this one just doesn't look so right when I am done with it.

The Attempt at a Solution


u= (lnx)2
du = 2lnx(1/x) dx
v = x6/6
dv = x5dx

{u dv = (x6/6)((lnx)2) - { (x6/6)(2 lnx)(1/x)dx
= (x6/6)((lnx)2) - (1/3) { (x5)(lnx) dx

At this point I would doing integration by parts again for the integral: { (x5)(lnx) dx.

So:
u = lnx du = 1/x dx dv = x5dx v = x6/6
--> { (x5)(lnx) dx = (lnx)(x6/6) - { (x6/6)(1/x) dx
= (lnx)(x6/6) - (1/6) { x5 dx
= (lnx)(x6/6) - x6/12

Plugging this back into my original solution:

= (x6/6)((lnx)2) - (1/3)((lnx)(x6/6) - x6/12)
=(x6/6)((lnx)2) - (lnx x6/18) - x6/36This could even further be simplified i suppose by taking out some common factors of x6/6, but I don't even know if all this is right. Some let me know if I am on the right track, or where i went wrong??
 
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hi LunarJK

why not try and differentiate it and see if you get the original integrand?
 
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lanedance said:
hi LunarJK

why not try and differentiate it and see if you get the original integrand?

Well i tried... and i do not get the original integrand. I need some advice as to where i went wrong.
 
your method looks good I think you may have just mixed up some +- signs and factors

i get to

= \frac{1}{6}(x^6(\ln{x})^2 - \frac{1}{3}( x^6\ln{x} -\frac{x^6}{6}) )+c = \frac{x^6}{6.6.3}(6.\ln{x)((3.\ln{x} - 1) + 1 ))+c

which agrees with the online integrator
http://integrals.wolfram.com/
 
LunarJK said:

Homework Statement



Integrate the following:
(Ill use { as the integration sign)

{x5(lnx)2 dx

Homework Equations


{u dv = uv - {v du

I'm really new to integration by parts, and unfortunately I am having to learn it out of a book for now. I sort of get the idea, but this one just doesn't look so right when I am done with it.

The Attempt at a Solution


u= (lnx)2
du = 2lnx(1/x) dx
v = x6/6
dv = x5dx

{u dv = (x6/6)((lnx)2) - { (x6/6)(2 lnx)(1/x)dx
= (x6/6)((lnx)2) - (1/3) { (x5)(lnx) dx
this looks good here
LunarJK said:
At this point I would doing integration by parts again for the integral: { (x5)(lnx) dx.

So:
u = lnx du = 1/x dx dv = x5dx v = x6/6
--> { (x5)(lnx) dx = (lnx)(x6/6) - { (x6/6)(1/x) dx
= (lnx)(x6/6) - (1/6) { x5 dx
= (lnx)(x6/6) - x6/12
i think your 12 should be 6.6 = 36
LunarJK said:
Plugging this back into my original solution:

= (x6/6)((lnx)2) - (1/3)((lnx)(x6/6) - x6/12)


=(x6/6)((lnx)2) - (lnx x6/18) - x6/36
this should be -(-x^6/36) = +x^6/36 (i haven;t factored in the above error as well though...)
LunarJK said:
This could even further be simplified i suppose by taking out some common factors of x6/6, but I don't even know if all this is right. Some let me know if I am on the right track, or where i went wrong??

hopefully this gets you there
 

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