Integration By Trig Substitution

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves evaluating the integral ∫√(4-x^2)/x dx, which falls under the subject area of calculus, specifically integration techniques including trigonometric substitution and partial fractions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using trigonometric substitution with the substitution u=asinθ, and some suggest using u^2=4-x^2 instead. There are questions about the application of partial fractions and concerns regarding algebraic manipulation, particularly with square roots and the need for synthetic division.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored. Some participants have provided guidance on alternative methods, while others express confusion about the algebra involved and the implications of their substitutions. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential algebra mistakes and the challenge of resubstituting back to x, indicating that assumptions about the substitutions may need to be reconsidered. There is also mention of homework constraints that may limit the methods available.

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1. Homework Statement
∫√(4-x^2)/x dx


2. Homework Equations



3. The Attempt at a Solution
a^2=4 u^2=x^2 ⇒ u=asinθ
a=2 u=x
x=2sinθ sinθ
2cosθ=√(4-x^2)
dx=2cosθ dθ

∫√(4-4sin^2θ)/2sinθ 2cosθ dθ
∫2cos^2θ/2sinθ 2cosθ dθ
2∫cos^2θ/sinθ cosθ dθ

Now what? I have been working on this problem for the last 3 3 hours and I am at a stand still. Can somebody Please get me to the answer?
 
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neshepard said:
2∫cos^2θ/sinθ cosθ dθ

Now use the formula cos2θ+sin2θ=1 and replace cos2θ and then try using t=sinθ as a substitution.
 
I don't think you want to use a trig substitution. Try u^2=4-x^2. Then use partial fractions on the u integral.
 
To do partial fractions, don't I need to divide the numerator by the denominator because the exponent is larger in the numerator? If so, how? I've never tried to do synthetic division on a sqrt.
 
neshepard said:
To do partial fractions, don't I need to divide the numerator by the denominator because the exponent is larger in the numerator? If so, how? I've never tried to do synthetic division on a sqrt.

Maybe you missed that it's u^2=4-x^2, not u=4-x^2. There's no sqrt left after the u substitution.
 
What I have now is:
=2∫cos^2θ/sinθ dθ
=2∫1-sin^2θ/sinθ dθ
=2∫1-sinθ dθ
=2(cosθ + θ)
But I can't resub because there is no value for θ!
 
neshepard said:
What I have now is:
=2∫cos^2θ/sinθ dθ
=2∫1-sin^2θ/sinθ dθ
=2∫1-sinθ dθ
=2(cosθ + θ)
But I can't resub because there is no value for θ!

You are also making algebra mistakes. (1-sin(t)^2)/sin(t) isn't 1-sin(t). And to get things back in terms of x, you want to put theta=arcsin(x/2).
 
Dick said:
I don't think you want to use a trig substitution. Try u^2=4-x^2. Then use partial fractions on the u integral.

well that's right

whenever u have anything under the square root , try removing hte square root first
 

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