Integration limits for unit step

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The discussion revolves around determining the correct integration limits for an integral involving unit step functions and a constant. The integral in question is expressed as Int( [-u(-t) + u(-t-1)] * a * dt, -Inf, +Inf), where the participant is seeking clarity on the limits of integration based on the behavior of the unit step functions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to solve inequalities to find integration limits, leading to confusion about whether the limits should extend from -Inf to -1. Other participants suggest rewriting the functions and sketching the unit step functions to clarify the limits. There is also discussion about changing variables due to the presence of an exponential term in the integral.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing guidance on interpreting the unit step functions and confirming integration limits. There is a back-and-forth regarding the sign of the constant 'a' in the integral, indicating ongoing exploration of the problem's nuances.

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There is mention of a picture attached by the original poster to illustrate their understanding, which is later questioned by another participant. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the implications of the unit step functions on the integral's setup.

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hello, if i have an integral like: Int( [-u(-t) + u(-t-1)] * a * dt, -Inf, +Inf)... where a is some constant.. what would be the correct initegration limits?

the most important here is to determine correctly the integration limits.. if i solve the inequalities:
-t > 0 => t < 0
-t-1 > 0 => t < -1

now get a lil bit confused... it goes from -Inf to -1? i think I am missing something?

thanks
 
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Yes, you are missing something.
Try writing your functions as [ u( -(t+1)) - u(-t) ]*a [1]

Draw a little sketch of the unit step function part. It should be clear that before t =-1 [1] is zero and after t=0 the function is zero and in between the function is 1. After this, choose your integration limits appropriately. :-)
 
Ok, let me c if i got it correct, rewriting:

u(-(t+1)) - u(-t), I am attaching picture.. the first part of this expression is shown with black, the second part which is u(-t) is shown in red..

now its clear that integral limits are from 0 to t+1?

But.. however tho.. my original problem has exp(-j*w*t) inside the inegral... i put 'a' as constant just for simplification... but now, since my limit is t+1.. it turns out that i have to change variable? but that looks weird stil... because i don't think i was supposed to arrive to this..
 

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Your picture in not correct.
u(-(t+1)) = 1 when t<= -1
u(-t) = 1 whe t<=0

When you substract u(-t) from u(-(t+1)) you should get zero everywhere except when -1<= t <=0 .
 
now i got it... thanks!
 
just one more thing regarding this problem... now that we know my integration limits are froom -1 to 0... should i place '-' sign inside the integral before constant 'a'? because the unit step is negative? or not?

i.e. should my integral be Int(-1,0 of: -a * dt) ?
 
Why do you think it is negative?
 
ok because of this:
i attached pic.
 

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Good!
My work here is done; you are all set. :-)
 
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lol what u mean? i stil didnt get something? i'd be happy if u point out what else am i missing? :)

stil have question... should i have Minus sign in front of 'a' in the integral then?
 
  • #11
Nothing more. :-)

Your integral should be int of (-1 to 0) -a dt.

I guess I should be more clear. I wanted you to be sure of yourself and not doubt your own correct deductions.
 
  • #12
thank you very much :)
 

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