Integration u-substitution Problem

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The problem involves evaluating the integral \(\int \frac{e^{6x}}{e^{12x}+64}dx\), suggesting a focus on integration techniques, specifically u-substitution.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster considers using u-substitution but is unsure about the correct choice for \(u\) and how to manipulate the integral. Some participants suggest \(u = e^{6x}\) and discuss the implications of this substitution on the integral's form.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the implications of their substitutions and transformations. There is a recognition of confusion regarding the presence of certain terms in the integral, with some participants questioning the necessity of specific components in the denominator and how they relate to the chosen substitution.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the manipulation of terms during the substitution process, particularly concerning the relationship between \(e^{6x}\) and \(e^{12x}\). Participants are also referencing external resources, such as integral tables, to guide their understanding.

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Homework Statement




\int \frac{e^6^x}{e^1^2^x+64}dx


The Attempt at a Solution



Well, it seems like it might be a u-substitution problem, but I think I have to rewrite it somehow to get the numerator to cancel? If anyone can give me a hint on what to choose for u, or maybe how to split it up, it would be great. :)
 
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Try u = e6x.
 
Okay, let's see...

If u=e^6^x then

du=6e^6^xdx.

So,

\frac{1}{6}\int \frac{u}{e^1^2^x+64}\times\frac{du}{e^6^x}

I'm still a bit confused...
 
\frac{1}{6}\int \frac{u}{e^1^2^x+64}\times\frac{du}{e^6^x}

= \frac{1}{6}\int \frac{u}{u^2+64}\times\frac{du}{u}

= ...
 
FallingMan said:
Okay, let's see...

If u=e^6^x then

du=6e^6^xdx.

So,

\frac{1}{6}\int \frac{u}{e^1^2^x+64}\times\frac{du}{e^6^x}

I'm still a bit confused...
That e6x in the denominator should not be there, should it?

[STRIKE]If u = e6x, what is e12x in terms of u?
[/STRIKE]

EDIT: Never mind. gb7nash gave it away.
 
eumyang said:
That e6x in the denominator should not be there.

If u = e6x, what is e12x in terms of u?

Err, shouldn't it be u2? (I think Nash was getting at something similar).. also, why shouldn't the e6x be in the denominator? I was solving for dx so - then you can get rid of the dx term in the integral, right?

EDIT: Oh, you mean it shouldn't be there because you can replace it with a u?
 
FallingMan said:
Err, shouldn't it be u2? (I think Nash was getting at something similar).. also, why shouldn't the e6x be in the denominator? I was solving for dx so - then you can get rid of the dx term in the integral, right?

EDIT: Oh, you mean it shouldn't be there because you can replace it with a u?

Yes, that's what I mean.

\int \frac{e^6^x}{e^1^2^x+64}dx

Let u = e6x.
Then du = 6e6x dx.
So
\frac{du}{6} = e^{6x} dx.

Which means the integral becomes
\frac{1}{6} \int \frac{du}{u^2+64}EDIT: Fixed.
 
eumyang said:
Yes, that's what I mean.

\int \frac{e^6^x}{e^1^2^x+64}dx

Let u = e6x.
Then du = 6e6x dx.
So
\frac{du}{6} = e^{6x} dx.

Which means the integral becomes
\frac{1}{6} \int \frac{du}{u^2+64}


EDIT: Fixed.

Hmmm, interesting. Is there some rule that I am not aware of for dealing with this situation. Wolfram-alpha is giving me some way to integrate it that I don't really understand... At least I understand how to get to this point.

I might need some more time to figure out the rest.
 
If you are studying from a calculus textbook, look for a table of integrals. There is one that starts like this:
\int \frac{du}{u^2 + a^2} = ...
(or something similar).
 
  • #10
eumyang said:
If you are studying from a calculus textbook, look for a table of integrals. There is one that starts like this:
\int \frac{du}{u^2 + a^2} = ...
(or something similar).

Oh... like...

\int \frac{du}{u^2 + a^2} = \frac{tan^-^1(\frac{u}{a})}{a}+C

Like that?
 
  • #11
FallingMan said:
Oh... like...

\int \frac{du}{u^2 + a^2} = \frac{tan^-^1(\frac{u}{a})}{a}+C

Like that?

Looks right. Just remember to convert back to x.
 
  • #12
gb7nash said:
Looks right. Just remember to convert back to x.

=\frac{1}{6} \int\frac{1}{u^2+8^2}du = \frac{1}{6}\times\frac{tan^-^1\frac{u}{8}}{8}=\frac{1}{6}\times\frac{tan^-^1(\frac{e^6^x}{8})}{8}+C

That seems right.. thank you for the help guys!
 
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