Intensity of light in Fraunhofer diffraction pattern

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The discussion revolves around the intensity of light in the Fraunhofer diffraction pattern of a single slit, specifically focusing on the equation I=I0(sinγ/γ)² and the condition for maximum intensity expressed as tanγ=γ.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore how to find maximum points of the intensity function, discussing differentiation and critical points. There are attempts to apply the chain rule and quotient rule to derive necessary conditions for maximum intensity.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the mathematical derivation, with some providing insights into differentiation techniques. There is a recognition of the relationship between sinγ, cosγ, and tanγ, though no consensus on the final steps has been reached.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the differentiation process and the implications of critical points, indicating a need for clarification on the mathematical relationships involved.

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Homework Statement



The intensity of light I in the fraunhofer diffraction patter of a single slit is

I=I0(sin\gamma/\gamma)2 where

\gamma=\piasin\theta/\lambda


Show that the equation for the vaules of \gamma at which I is maximum is tan\gamma=\gamma


well, intensity is approxiamately max as follows

Im=I0/[(m+1/2)2\pi2]

and for m=1... Im=0.0472I0
m=2...I0=0.0165I0

but i have no clue how to "show" that tan\gamma=\gamma at the max intensity??
 
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How do you find the maximum points of a function?

ehild
 
differentiate!
 
but what?

differential of I is I'=I0(-2sinx2/x3)

differential of \gamma is \gamma'=\piacos\theta/\lambda

for general functions the process is differentiate function and sub in zero's for critical points.

so in this case would i use I' and then sub in \gamma=0?

but that comes up with zero?
 
ProPatto16 said:
but what?

differential of I is I'=I0(-2sinx2/x3)

differential of \gamma is \gamma'=\piacos\theta/\lambda

No. The problem asks the places of maximum in terms of gamma. Differentiate the intensity with respect to γ. Apply chain rule for the square of sin(γ)/γ, then you have a fraction, and you have to differentiate sin(γ), too. No need to differentiate gamma with respect to theta.

ehild
 
With u=sin(Y)/Y
I=Io*u^2
u'=-sin(Y)/Y^2
I'= Io*2u
So
I' with respect to gamme is =Io*2sin(Y)/Y*-sin(Y)/Y^2

=Io*-2[(sinY)^2]/Y^3
...
 
sin(γ)/γ is a fraction. What is the derivative of f/g?

ehild
 
eh of course,
sin(Y)/Y derivative, let g=sinY then g'=cosY
h=Y and h'=1
y'=(YcosY-Y)/Y2
 
then = (Y(cosY-1))/Y2

so = (cosY-1)/Y
 
  • #10
then subbing back into I'

I'=2I0*(sin(Y)/Y)*((cosY-1)/Y)

but tan = sin/cos.

i can see its getting closer...
 
  • #11
not sure what to do next, and the only way i can see to get cos on the bottom of the fraction is to change the two functions for quotient rule but then it wouldn't match the rule.. help?
 
  • #12
ProPatto16 said:
eh of course,
sin(Y)/Y derivative, let g=sinY then g'=cosY
h=Y and h'=1
y'=(YcosY-Y)/Y2


y'=(γcosγ -sinγ )/γ2.

ehild
 
  • #13
Oh god. Way to feel dumb -.- thanks mate
 
  • #14
So I'= 2I0*(sinY/Y)*((YcosY-sinY)/Y2)

thats with u=sinY/Y so then I'=2I0*u*du/dY which is from above.

i tried subbing in tanY for Y but it doesn't work out to zero?

to "show" that tanY=Y is a max, then I'=0...
 
  • #15
You do not need that "u". I'=0 either when sinγ/γ=0 or γcosγ-sinγ=0, that is, γcosγ=sinγ, divide both side with cosγ, ... Do you know how tanγ is related to sinγ and cosγ?


ehild
 
  • #16
oh. of course. had absolutely no vision for this question. thanks for your help. very much.
 

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