Interferance term, sum of 2 waves

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Homework Statement


Consider the following waves: [tex]\vec E _1 (\vec r , t) =\vec E_1 (\vec r) e^{-i \omega t}[/tex] and [tex]\vec E _2 (\vec r , t) =\vec E_2 (\vec r) e^{-i \omega t}[/tex] where the form of the wavefront isn't specified and where [tex]\vec E_1[/tex] and [tex]\vec E_2[/tex] are complex vectors which depend on spatial coordinates and the angle of the initial phase. Show that the term of interferance is given by [tex]I_{12}=\frac{1}{2} (\vec E _1 \cdot \vec E _2 ^* +\vec E _2 \cdot \vec E _1 ^*)[/tex]


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The Attempt at a Solution


Is it just me or the given E fields do NOT depend on the angle of initial phase?!
I took their E fields function, summed them up. It gave me [tex]e^{-i \omega t} [ \vec E _1 (\vec r ) + \vec E _2 (\vec r )][/tex].
Now if I remember well, the intensity of the resultant wave is proportional to the E field squared.
So I squared the expression I just wrote and I reached [tex]I_{12} = \alpha e^{-2i \omega t} [\vec E _1 ^2 (\vec r ) +\vec E _2 ^2 (\vec r ) +2 \vec E _1 (\vec r) \vec E _2 (\vec r ) ][/tex]. Now I guess the interference term is [tex]\alpha \vec E _1 (\vec r) \vec E _2[/tex] but it does not match the answer.
I realize that the given interference term is worth the sum of the product of the real parts and complex parts of [tex]\vec E _1[/tex] and [tex]\vec E _2[/tex] and precisely, this is not what happens in my answer.
Where did I go wrong?
 
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The intensity is given by [itex]I = \mathbf{E}^*\cdot\mathbf{E}[/itex]. It's not simply [itex]I=\mathbf{E}^2[/itex].
 
That's right. E is complex, so |E|2E2.
 
vela said:
That's right. E is complex, so |E|2E2.

Oh I see, thanks for the clarification!
 
vela said:
That's right. E is complex, so |E|2E2.

Sorry for bringing this back but I'm still missing something.
If I start from [tex]e^{-i \omega t} [ \vec E _1 (\vec r ) + \vec E _2 (\vec r )][/tex]. I can think of it as a complex number of the form [tex]re^{i \theta}[/tex], where [tex]r=\vec E _1 (\vec r ) + \vec E _2 (\vec r )[/tex] and [tex]\theta =-\omega t[/tex].
Then the modulus of E is r. And the modulus squared is [tex]r^2[/tex].
Now I'll get something of the form [tex]I_{12} = \alpha [\vec E _1 ^2 (\vec r ) +\vec E _2 ^2 (\vec r ) +2 \vec E _1 (\vec r) \vec E _2 (\vec r ) ][/tex] and I still have no trace of a complex conjugate... Hmm I'll try to continue in this way. If you have any comment, feel free to share knowledge. :smile:
 
From your first post
fluidistic said:
where [tex]\vec E_1[/tex] and [tex]\vec E_2[/tex] are complex vectors
 
vela said:
From your first post
Ahhh, I misunderstood the question, sorry. I thought they meant [tex]\vec E _1 (\vec r , t)[/tex] and hence my question regarding the dependence on the angle of initial phase. The dependence was hidden inside [tex]\vec E _1[/tex]!
Ok I'll rethink the whole problem now.
Thanks once again for pointing that out.
 
I almost have it I think.
I reach, starting from and assuming that [tex]I=E E^*[/tex] that [tex]I=|\vec E _1 (\vec r ) |+|\vec E _2 (\vec r )|+\vec E _1 \cdot \vec E _2 ^* +\vec E _2 \cdot \vec E _1 ^*[/tex].

I realize that the term of interference is [tex]\vec E _1 \cdot \vec E _2 ^* +\vec E _2 \cdot \vec E _1 ^*[/tex], but is it well "demonstrated"?
I can argue that if one doesn't know about interference, he will just guess that the intensity at any point in space is the sum of the intensities of the 2 wave sources, namely [tex]|\vec E _1 (\vec r ) |+|\vec E _2 (\vec r )|[/tex]. While if he does the experience he will see the interference effect and that it can be mathematically described by the term [tex]\vec E _1 \cdot \vec E _2 ^* +\vec E _2 \cdot \vec E _1 ^*[/tex].
I wonder if I've solved well the problem. What do you say? I have not used the fact that [tex]\vec E _i[/tex], [tex]i=1,2[/tex] is dependent on the initial phase.