Intersection of spherical shell and a plane

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The original poster seeks to determine the area of intersection between a spherical shell and a plane in spherical coordinates, specifically considering a sphere with differential thickness. The problem involves understanding how the intersection forms a circle and how this changes with the thickness of the shell.

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  • Some participants discuss the concept of the intersection as a ring with differential thickness and explore the area of this ring. Questions arise regarding how the area varies with changes in the outer radius and the implications of taking derivatives in this context.

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Participants are actively engaging with the mathematical formulation of the problem, with some offering differing interpretations of the area calculations. There is an ongoing examination of the correctness of the proposed formulas and the assumptions underlying them, but no consensus has been reached.

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There seems to be confusion regarding the relationship between length and area in the context of differential thickness, and assumptions about the constancy of certain variables are being questioned.

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I need to know the area of the intersection between a sperical shell and a plane in spherical coordinates. By "shell" I mean a sphere with some differential thickness dR. Basically, I know that the intersection of a sphere and a plane is a circle. But I want to consider this sphere having some differential thickness and determine the subsequent differential area of intersection with the plane. Can someone please help me out with formulating this problem? Thanks, Mike
 
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Isn't this just a ring with differential tickness dR?

Consider a ring of inner radius r and outer rarius R.
[tex]A_{ring} = \pi(R^2-r^2)[/tex]

How does its area varies with an increase of R?

[tex]\frac{dA_{ring}}{dR} = \pi (2R-r^2)[/tex]

So a differential increase of dR means a differential increase in the area of

[tex]dA_{ring} = \pi (2R-r^2)dR[/tex]

And if the outer radius is r (R=r), then you have the concept of a diffential ring of radius r, i.e. what you're looking for:

[tex]dA_{ring}(R=r) = \pi (2r-r^2)dR[/tex]
 
quasar987 said:
[tex]dA_{ring}(R=r) = \pi (2r-r^2)dR[/tex]

That solution is incorrect upon inspection as it involves the difference between an length and an area. The correct answer is [itex]2\pi r dR[/itex].

The error appeared by taking [itex]\frac{d}{dR} \pi (R^2-r^2)= \pi (2R-r^2)[/tex], which is incorrect: [itex]\frac{dr}{dR} = 0[/itex].[/itex]
 
quasar987 said:
Isn't this just a ring with differential tickness dR?

Consider a ring of inner radius r and outer rarius R.
[tex]A_{ring} = \pi(R^2-r^2)[/tex]

How does its area varies with an increase of R?

[tex]\frac{dA_{ring}}{dR} = \pi (2R-r^2)[/tex]
If you are assuming that r is a constant then
[tex]\frac{dA_{ring}}{dR} = 2\pi R[/tex]
since the derivative of r2 is 0.

So a differential increase of dR means a differential increase in the area of

[tex]dA_{ring} = \pi (2R-r^2)dR[/tex]

And if the outer radius is r (R=r), then you have the concept of a diffential ring of radius r, i.e. what you're looking for:

[tex]dA_{ring}(R=r) = \pi (2r-r^2)dR[/tex]
 
oops. :frown:
 

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