Intersection of TWO QUADRICS/Conics

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The problem involves finding the points of intersection of two quadric equations in the plane, specifically: 2x² - xy + 3y² = 36 and 3x² - 4xy + 5y² = 36. The context suggests a connection to algebraic structures, particularly in a ring and field class.

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  • Exploratory, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various methods for solving the system of equations, including the potential use of determinants and substitutions. There is curiosity about the process used by another participant to derive intersection points directly from the equations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on the methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding solving the equations as a system, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach or its relation to the course content in ring and field theory.

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Participants express confusion about the relevance of the problem to their abstract algebra course, questioning whether specialized techniques are necessary for solving the equations.

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Homework Statement



Find all the plane (x,y) all points of intersection of two quadric:
2x^2-xy+3y^2=36,
3x^2-4xy+5y^2=36




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I want to know the general process to solve something like this. Is the problem solved by using det somehow? Or divide by y^2 and let k=x/y then make 2 equations are solve that somehow??
 
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OK, so eq 2-eq1, then use that as eq 3. Solve eq1 and eq3 as a system, which got that answer. Is this process correct?

My class is a ring&field class. I don't see how this even related at all... No determinate needed to solve this?
 
hi glueball8! :smile:

(try using the X2 button just above the Reply box :wink:)
glueball8 said:
OK, so eq 2-eq1, then use that as eq 3. Solve eq1 and eq3 as a system, which got that answer.

yes, that will give you two values for x/y, which you can then substitute into the original equations :wink:

(and if they weren't both 36 on the RHS, of course you would multiply one of them to make the RHSs the same)
 
tiny-tim said:
hi glueball8! :smile:

(try using the X2 button just above the Reply box :wink:)yes, that will give you two values for x/y, which you can then substitute into the original equations :wink:

(and if they weren't both 36 on the RHS, of course you would multiply one of them to make the RHSs the same)


Thanks, do you know what does this have to do with ring&fields (Abstract algebra)? I thought you had to use something special to solve it but apparently its just regular system of equations.
 
glueball8 said:
Thanks, do you know what does this have to do with ring&fields (Abstract algebra)?

i've no idea :redface:

anyone? :smile:
 

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