Intro EE - Voltage Divider Design circuit

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The discussion revolves around the design of a voltage divider circuit, specifically focusing on the calculations and selection of resistor values based on given conditions. Participants explore the application of Thevenin's theorem and node voltage analysis in determining appropriate resistor values.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the equations for voltage division and Thevenin resistance, applying them to find resistor values within specified limits.
  • Another participant suggests a correction to the range of Thevenin resistance, indicating that it should be in the thousands (10,000 to 30,000) rather than the tens.
  • A question is raised about whether the initial participant has considered all possible resistor values from the E12 series, implying that there may be additional candidates beyond those initially listed.
  • There is a clarification regarding the calculation of 120kΩ, presented in a different format, which seems to confirm the understanding of resistor values.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the range of Thevenin resistance and the completeness of the resistor candidates considered, indicating that there is no consensus on these points.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the selection of resistor values from the E12 series and the implications of the stated conditions on the calculations.

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Here are the equations I used:

V_out/V_in = R_2/(R_1 + R_2) {using the node method}

R_thevenin (R_th) = R_2*R_1/(R_1+R_2)

And given the conditions =>

10 < R_th < 30

Manipulating this inequality I found that 50 < R_1 < 150, which left me with three possible values for R_1 (56, 68, 82).

Using the first equation, I put in the numbers, which gave me 0.2=R_2/(R_2+56) and solved for R_2 with every value I put in for R_1 (56, 68, 82).

R_2 values were 14, 17, and 20, respectively, which came to equate to 15, 18, and 22 when compared to the original set of resistors and the 10% condition.

I tried putting in the values of these resistors I used, because all gave me the right ratio of voltages, but they're incorrect.


Pardon how nuanced I may seem, it's been too long since I've done any physics..
 
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krtica said:
Here are the equations I used:

V_out/V_in = R_2/(R_1 + R_2) {using the node method}

R_thevenin (R_th) = R_2*R_1/(R_1+R_2)
I think you are on the right track.
And given the conditions =>

10 < R_th < 30
This should be, 10,000 ≤ R_th ≤ 30,000
Manipulating this inequality I found that 50 < R_1 < 150, which left me with three possible values for R_1 (56, 68, 82).
Aren't you missing some candidates here?
R₁ ∈ {56k,68k,82k,100k,120k,150k}
 
Wouldn't it just be the three since your given all the resistances available in the set E12?
 
120kΩ = 12 x 104
 
Right! Thanks.
 

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