Introduction to Group Theory - Abstract Algebra

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The discussion revolves around a problem in abstract algebra, specifically group theory. The original poster attempts to prove that if \((ab)^2 = a^2b^2\) in a group \(G\), then it follows that \(ab = ba\). Participants are analyzing the implications of the given equations and the properties of group operations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the validity of the original poster's algebraic manipulations and question the clarity of the statements made regarding group properties. There is an exploration of whether the steps taken are permissible and if the assumptions about the operation in the group are adequately addressed.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide feedback on the original poster's work, suggesting corrections and clarifications regarding the statements made. There is a recognition of potential redundancy in the provided statements, and some guidance is offered on justifying the use of associativity in the proof process.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the operation defined in the group may not necessarily be multiplication, which raises questions about the assumptions underlying the original proof attempt. There is also mention of the uniqueness of inverses in the context of group elements.

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Homework Statement


Prove that if (ab)2 = a2b2 in a group G, then ab = ba.

Homework Equations


* For each element a in G, there is an element b in G (called the inverse of a) such that ab = ba = e (the identity).
* For each element in G, there is a unique element b in G such that ab = ba = e.
* The operation (under which the group is defined) is associative; that is, (ab)c = a(bc).

The Attempt at a Solution


[tex](ab)^{2} = (a)^{2}(b)^{2}[/tex]
[tex](a)^{-1}(ab)^{2}(b)^{-1} = (a)^{-1}(a)^{2}(b)^{2}(b)^{-1}[/tex]
[tex](a)^{-1}abab(b)^{-1} = (a)^{-1}aabb(b)^{-1}[/tex]
ebae = eabe
ba = ab.

Is this allowed? (Keep in mind, the operation which the group is defined over is not necessarily multiplication. it may be composition.)
 
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Sure is but your pre last line should be ba = ab I believe.

Also your 2nd "given" is the same as your first, you probably meant something else?
 
NoMoreExams said:
Sure is but your pre last line should be ba = ab I believe.

Also your 2nd "given" is the same as your first, you probably meant something else?

The second given is the uniqueness statement. The first given is the rule that an element in a group has at least an inverse (not necessarily unique). I said "the" when I meant "an".

edit: Thanks for correcting my mistake. It's a typo. I had it right on paper, I just didn't type out what I wrote down for some reason. . .
 
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Then that seems redundant, line 2 is stronger than line 1.
 
descendency said:

The Attempt at a Solution


[tex](ab)^{2} = (a)^{2}(b)^{2}[/tex]
[tex](a)^{-1}(ab)^{2}(b)^{-1} = (a)^{-1}(a)^{2}(b)^{2}(b)^{-1}[/tex]
[tex](a)^{-1}abab(b)^{-1} = (a)^{-1}aabb(b)^{-1}[/tex]
ebae = eabe
ba = ab.
Is this allowed?
Your work is fine, where I read it as (line 1) => (line 2) => ... .

However, depending on the level of pendency of your instructor you may be required to justify your use of associativity. E.g., the left-hand side is [tex](ab)^2 = (ab)(ab) = a(b(ab)) = a((ba)b)[/tex], and the right-hand side is [tex]a^2b^2 = (aa)(bb) = a(a(bb)) = a((ab)b)[/tex]; then multiply both sides on the left by [tex]a^{-1}[/tex], and so on.
 

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