Intuitive, real-world explanation of displacement current?

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The discussion revolves around the physical explanation of displacement current, particularly in the context of capacitors and electromagnetic theory. Participants explore various interpretations and implications of displacement current, touching on its role in magnetic fields and its mathematical formulation.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express a desire for a physical explanation of displacement current beyond its mathematical definition, questioning if it relates to "preservation of current."
  • Others reference "The Feynman Lectures on Physics" as a source that provides insight into displacement current and its necessity in maintaining consistency in magnetic fields around capacitors.
  • One participant suggests that displacement current acts as a virtual current added to Ampere's law, arguing that it does not represent a physical current in a vacuum.
  • Another participant describes the charging process of a capacitor, asserting that displacement current must equal the circuit current during charging to maintain a closed circuit.
  • Some participants discuss the role of displacement current as a source for magnetic fields, noting that in dielectrics, it may involve changing polarization, while in a vacuum, it arises solely from changing electric fields.
  • There is a contention regarding the relationship between changing electric and magnetic fields, with some arguing that they occur together and should not be viewed as one producing the other.
  • One participant critiques the application of the Biot-Savart formula in the context of displacement current, suggesting that it should not be included without careful consideration of the electric field's characteristics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the nature and implications of displacement current, with no consensus reached on its physical interpretation or its role in electromagnetic theory.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on specific assumptions about the nature of electric fields and currents, and there are unresolved questions regarding the applicability of certain mathematical formulations in different contexts.

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I know and fully understand the mathematical definition of it. But what's the physical explanation? Is it something like "preservation of current" or something?
 
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There's a great explanation of the displacement current and why it has to be there in "The Feynman Lectures on Physics" Vol 2, Chapter 18.

I attached a pdf below.
 

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There are pages written about this in intermediate physics textbooks. You can refer to Griffiths for instance. It can be viewed as a 'source' for the magnetic field inside and around a capacitor for eg. The idea is that magnetic fields can be produced not just by electric currents but by changing electric fields as well.
 
Nikitin said:
I know and fully understand the mathematical definition of it. But what's the physical explanation? Is it something like "preservation of current" or something?
Displacement current is a virtual current - a device that is added to Ampere's law to make Ampere's law work. Maxwell thought a vacuum behaved like a dielectric and imagined that there was something in the vacuum between the plates of a capacitor that behaved like little moving charges. But there isn't. So there is no physical explanation as a current.

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phyzguy said:
There's a great explanation of the displacement current and why it has to be there in "The Feynman Lectures on Physics" Vol 2, Chapter 18.

I attached a pdf below.

In particular note Figure 18-2. The displacement current between the plates of the capacitor makes the magnetic field around the gap "consistent" with the magnetic field around the wire on either side of the gap.

Recall that when calculating the current through an Amperian loop for Ampere's Law, you have to integrate the current density across a surface that is bounded by the loop. If you let the current density come from both "physical current" and "displacement current", it doesn't make any difference whether the surface of integration cuts through the wire or passes between the capacitor plates (see examples in the diagram).
 
Hello,
the problem that one has to see in order to intuitively comprehend displacement currents is the charging of a capacitor.
When one starts charging it current flows towards the high voltage plate, but it cannot proceed towards the low voltage one. In order the 'charging' to make sense, the circuit must be closed =>Therefore there must be current in it.
Therefore, for as long as the charging takes place a displacement current occurs which is equal to the current of the circuit : Id=I
 
It can be viewed as a 'source' for the magnetic field inside and around a capacitor for eg.
That is partially true, if the displacement current occurs inside a simple dielectric. Then part of the displacement current is due to changing polarization state of the dielectric, so electric current is involved, and this can be called 'source'.

In vacuum, however, the displacement current consists of changing electric field only.

The idea is that magnetic fields can be produced not just by electric currents but by changing electric fields as well.
This is bit problematic. Actually the changing electric and magnetic fields always occur together. Since they are two faces of one force acting on the charges, it is not good to say that one produces the other. Rather the electric charges and currents produce both fields - this corresponds better both to physical and mathematical usage of the term 'source'.

It is true that the Maxwell equation
$$
\nabla \times \mathbf B = \mathbf j + \frac{\partial \mathbf E}{\partial t}
$$
looks as if the displacement current played a role of additional electric current, so one may be inclined to include it into the Biot-Savart formula. However, that would not be correct, for the following reasons.

If the electric field is given accurately by gradient of potential, then the magnetic field is given correctly by the Biot-Savart formula with ##\mathbf j## only, even if the electric field changes in time (e.g. during the condenser discharge):

http://ajp.aapt.org/resource/1/ajpias/v31/i3/p201_s1?isAuthorized=no ;

on the other hand, if the electric field has significant non-gradient contributions, then the Biot-Savart formula cannot be used, because we do not know the variation of the electric field any better than that of the magnetic field. In such cases, we have to deal with the displacement current in a different way. One can use Jefimenko's formulae, but in these the magnetic field is again a function of the currents only.
 
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