Inverse Function for (e^x)/(e^x + 1): Steps and Example Solutions

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The problem involves finding the inverse of the function y = (e^x)/(e^x + 1), which falls under the subject area of algebra and functions, particularly focusing on inverse functions and logarithmic manipulation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss switching x and y and attempting to solve for y, with various algebraic manipulations being suggested. Some express confusion about logarithmic properties and how to simplify expressions involving e^y and ln. There are attempts to clarify steps and share insights on combining logarithmic terms.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on algebraic steps and questioning each other's reasoning. There is a mix of interpretations and approaches being explored, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention difficulties with algebra and express uncertainty about their manipulations, indicating a potential lack of confidence in their skills. There are references to specific steps that may not have been executed correctly, highlighting the complexity of the problem.

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Homework Statement


Find the inverse:

y = (e^x)/(e^x + 1)

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The Attempt at a Solution



I switched x with y and solved for y but I ended up getting lne^y - lnx = lne^y +ln1 and then -lnx= ln1
 
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could you show your work?

and I think you split up e^x+1 to lne^y+ln1? you can't do that.
 
ohhh your right it should be

e^y = x(e^y+1)

then

lne^y = lnx + ln(e^y+1) but I'm still stuck from here
 
hm..ok take the ln(e^y+1) to the right side and simplify by combining the ln's

edit: whops meant take lne^y to the right side, lnx to the left and you should be able to simplify it
 
what is there to combine
 
so get -lnx = ln(e^y + 1) - lne^y

then -lnx = ln((e^ y +1)/e^y) ? this doesn't seem like it helped now I am back to where i started.
 
hm..no I multiplied by -1 on the RHS and LHS and got x=-lny but plugging that in I get y=1+y >.<
 
could you show the steps I'm not seeing it
 
wow did that wrong too >.>

my algebra is really bad right now for some reason...hm..try multiplying/dividing by \frac{e^{-x}}{e^{-x}}

ok yes multiply/divide by that and you will find the inverse.
 
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  • #10
so do that by the original equation before i start trying to find the inverse ?
 
  • #11
i got -ln(1/x -1) = y for the inverse would anyone agree ?
 
  • #12
yes and try to get x^-x all by itself on the RHS or LHS so you don't have something like ln(e^x+1)=y
 
  • #13
yep that's what I got, and you can check by plugging it in. also should be x=f(y).
 
  • #14
gotcha :)
 

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