Investigations into a heuristic Lagrangian of graviton field

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The discussion revolves around the heuristic Lagrangian for the graviton field, specifically examining the implications of the self-interaction term ##h^3## in the context of quantum field theory and general relativity. Participants explore the nature of self-interaction, its representation in Feynman diagrams, and the relationship between the Lagrangian parameters and gravitational constants.

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  • Some participants propose that the ##h^3## term in the Lagrangian represents self-interaction among gravitons, as indicated by Feynman diagrams that show three-graviton interactions.
  • Questions arise regarding the significance of the ##h^3## term's presence in general relativity and its implication that ##\lambda \sim \sqrt{G_N}##.
  • One participant suggests that in general relativity, the expansion of the Lagrangian around a vacuum leads to an infinite number of self-interactions, with the absence of a mass term due to the massless nature of the graviton.
  • There is a mention of deriving the mass dimension of ##\lambda## from the dimensions of the Lagrangian or action, presented as an exercise for further exploration.

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Participants express curiosity and seek clarification on the implications of the ##h^3## term and its relationship to general relativity, indicating that multiple viewpoints and questions remain unresolved.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of self-interaction and the dimensional analysis of the Lagrangian, which may depend on specific definitions and contexts within quantum field theory and general relativity.

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The following is taken from page 40 of Matthew Schwartz's "Introduction to Quantum Field Theory."

The Lagrangian for the graviton is heuristically ##\mathcal{L}=-\frac{1}{2}h\Box h + \frac{1}{3}\lambda h^{3}+Jh,## where ##h## represents the gravitational potential. We are ignoring spin and treating gravity as a simple scalar field theory. The ##h^3## term represents a graviton self-interaction, which is present in general relativity and so ##\lambda \sim \sqrt{G_N}##. The equations of motion are ##\Box h -\lambda h^{2}-J=0##.

Why the ##h^{3}## term represent the graviton self-interaction? What does self-interaction mean anyway? Does it mean the interaction among the various excitations of the graviton field?
 
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Well, draw the Feynmandiagrams for this theory, and you see that the h^3 term brings together three gravitons. As such it describes an interaction among gravitons themselves, hence "self-interaction". So to answer your last question: yes. You can compare it with a simple phi to the fourth theory :)
 
Thanks!

I was also wondering why the fact that the ##h^3## term is present in general relativity implies that ##\lambda \sim \sqrt{G_N}##?

Where in general relativity is the ##h^3## term present anyway?
 
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failexam said:
Thanks!

I was also wondering why the fact that the ##h^3## term is present in general relativity implies that ##\lambda \sim \sqrt{G_N}##?

Where in general relativity is the ##h^3## term present anyway?
In GR you have an expansion which gives you an infinite number of self-interactions in the Lagrangian; this is just a matter of expanding the Lagrangian around a vacuum (e.g. Minkowski). A quadratic term is a mass-term, and since the graviton is massless in GR this term is absent. The (mass) dimension of lambda can be derived from considering the (mass) dimension of the Lagrangian or action. This is a nice exercise for you to do; if you want help, consult e.g. Zee's QFT book.
 

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